Loctite Blue how can you loosen effect on screw

[buckey1313]

As you know I am rebuilding my Vulcan Nomad. Today off my damaged bags I was taking them apart to save the Key locks as want to still use my original key when I get new bags.

The problem is they put blue loctite on the two phillips screws that hold in the locking handle and key assembly. As you all know with a phillips screw you get one chance to crack it to turn. As you all know the bag lids are a plastic material I do not want to damage by hammer or other wise to break it loose.

Has anyone have an idea of great success at breaking loctite free at all any ideas. I do not want to damage the new bags I will eventually get.

[Monkeyman]

If it's blue Loctite, it will break free just by turning. If you don't want to risk stripping the screwdriver slot(s), use a Dremel and grind out a slot for a big flat blade screwdriver. RED Loctite generally needs heat to break loose. I'm 99% sure it's only BLUE Loctite on the bags.

[buckey1313]

yes is blue but god it sure holds tight. I did not mind smashing away with a hammer on old damaged bags but do not want to do it on the new used ones I am getting.

[Redd]

I used blue on MANY applications as a locksmith in my first career, and I don't recall ever having too difficult a time removing the treated hardware. If you feel the screws are too tight for comfort, you could go with Monkeys suggestion (I've done that on auto ignition bolts with great success), or you could also use a cordless impact drill to coax the screw loose as well. If your screw driver is slipping, there's always valve grinding compound. It's my go -to solution if my bit wants to slip when removing screws on an aircraft.

[MrMikey]

if there's any way you can put a bit of heat on the screw without damaging the surroundings it will help...............M

[vulcanscott]

You may think this is crazy but there are screw drivers made just for Our screws that work better than one out of the tool box . I think JIS standards they fit better and have small groves on the tips that pull it down into the screw while turning it . they do help . anyway if you are into tool porn look them up . V Scott

[01Nomad1500]

As vulcanscott said, the screws on our bikes are different from SAE standards. I ordered a Japanese screwdriver set from eBay and have been very glad I did. Definitely makes a difference.

[MrMikey]

What they said. A JIS screw is usually marked with a small dot between two of the legs............M

[gv550]

There is no need to loosen the screws holding the latch mechanism, on your old or new saddlebags.
The new bags will come with the latches but without lock tumblers, simply remove the tumblers from your broken bags and insert them into the new bags. there is a spring-loaded tab at the bottom of the tumbler, press it in while lifting the tumbler with your key.

[buckey1313]

Thanks Gerry appreciate that. They are used bags and will remove tumblers from both. I wanted to strip down my bags to nothing but usable parts and found this situation but will look at using your suggestion for sure.

Much appreciated for sure.

[mbarr10]

You may think this is crazy but there are screw drivers made just for Our screws that work better than one out of the tool box . I think JIS standards they fit better and have small groves on the tips that pull it down into the screw while turning it . they do help . anyway if you are into tool porn look them up . V Scott

On order now. Thanks for the information. I was clueless. I always thought it was soft stainless steel. The Shun Knifes I have are the Hardest steel in the world, but screws I never thought of being metric.

[gv550]

Thanks Gerry appreciate that. They are used bags and will remove tumblers from both. I wanted to strip down my bags to nothing but usable parts and found this situation but will look at using your suggestion for sure.

Much appreciated for sure.

Did you get a key with the used bags? It is not possible to remove the tumbler without the key.

[buckey1313]

Garry thanks for the heads up. They will be used bags shipped from Florida that have been offered to me and I have written the very awesome person who has offered them along with many other parts to put my bike back together at hardly a cost to me just shipping really. I have asked him if he can remove the locks before shipping as he has original key and converted his bike into a three wheeler so has no use for the parts I need.

Just a great help I have had off this site from fellow bikers after my accident it is so much appreciated.

Now I have another question I will post in awhile. I need to get the emblems off my gas tank etc. I sure I can do it with a little heat and some fishing line. Our emblems on 1700 are worth about a 100 bucks each. I am getting a full new paint job to new color. Now does anyone know where I can obtain the sticky back product they use on our bikes to reinstall emblems after I get the paint job. Changing to a different color scheme. It is a dang good product they use to hold emblems on but where can I obtain sheets of this product.

[MrMikey]

Any auto supply shop, NAPA, Carquest, should sell the double sided tape, I've had good luck with 3M brand. Can't say I've sen sheets of it, (doesn't mean they don't make it) any time I've needed a wide piece I just use strip of the tape side by side. Believe it comes in up to 2" wide rolls, not cheap..........Mike

[mbarr10]

They will be used bags shipped from Florida that have been offered to me and I have written the very awesome person who has offered them along with many other parts to put my bike back together at hardly a cost to me just shipping really. I have asked him if he can remove the locks before shipping as he has original key and converted his bike into a three wheeler so has no use for the parts I need.

Who ever you are in Florida, YOUR A STAND UP GUY. Helping out like that. Thank you for Reaffirming my faith in Humanity.

[Snake Ranch]

if there's any way you can put a bit of heat on the screw without damaging the surroundings it will help...............M

If you are determined to remove the screws, heat the heads of the screws with a soldering iron.

A little heat will go a long way to help soften the loctite, and it will make the screws grow a little in length, not much, but enough to release the " tightness"
on the screw.:tup::tup:

[smokier]

Nice tip Snake Ranch!

[mbarr10]

Brilliant, SnakeRanch. Thanks for the tip