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I figure cost is the main reason, water cooled cylinders are more expensive to make in production, and probably styling as well.
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So, are the 1600 CC Nomads in the same boat as far as cooling goes?
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Either 1) I got lucky, 2) Kawi fixed the heat issues for 2012, or 3) I have a high tolerance for heat. I have ridden my Voyager in 100+ degree weather and haven't had any issues. Sure, I can feel the heat from the engine, but it's not that bad considering the size of the engine. It's kinda annoying that the clutch cover is discoloring at 9,000 miles, but that's what the warranty is for. Overall, I am really happy with mine. I have never ridden a HD tourer, but from what my HD buddies tell me, they run just as hot, if not hotter, than the 1700s. But, as a disclaimer, my bike does have the extra cooling fan at the rear of the engine. Maybe it does make a huge difference over the prior models.
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I looked at the schematic and the very top of the 1700's cylinders get water, basically where the rings are at TDC. The fan is supposed to go on at 203˚F and go off when it drops down to 194˚F. If the fan isn't turning on, the water temps aren't high enough.
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The Twin Cams run very hot. The earlier Evos didn't.
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all of this talk of heat on the 1700's is just confusing to me. my vaquero rarely gets to half way on the temp gauge. now granted i to have v & h exhaust, pc-v, and a thunder tornado air kit but even before these mods the bike was not unrideable or miserable to ride because of heat. even sitting in traffic here in the south carolina heat my bike has never got to the red on the temp gauge. for all these guys that are complaining about heat ask yourself this question? was i doing 60mph down the highway or was i sitting in traffic when the fan kicked on? i bet your sitting in traffic. now i know the first thing ppl are gonna say is why cant kawi engineer it so it doesnt get so hot so fast or "its water cooled isnt it"?
the fact of the matter is it is a big v-twin with water assisted cooling. my bike does not run any hotter than any other "air cooled" bike i have owned. actually i would say it runs cooler than my 1600 roadstar i owned. i have used a temp gun on my bike and a friends street glide and mine was cooler with both bikes idleing at 96 degrees with very high humidity. i really dont know what kawi can do about this. i guess maybe put a big sticker on the gas tank saying CAUTION 1700CC ENGINE THIS ENGINE WILL GENERATE HEAT CAUSING SOME RIDERS DISCOMFORT.
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It's not just the fact that it's a big V Twin. Victory has a 106" V Twin in their touring bikes and a couple years ago they made the oil cooler SMALLER because they didn't think the oil temps were high enough. They run very cool (for what they are). Kaw (and most others) just don't have a great design.
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Good to see that a few members have posted some solutions !
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Oh goodie, another nanny sticker on the tank... 'Do Not Attempt'... I completely agree, my Vaquero never seemed much different heat-wise than any other bike I've owned, V-twin or otherwise. They have their quirks and personalities, that's what makes them so much fun! My reason for buying the Big Vaq in the first place was the personality, if I'd wanted a dull cookie cutter I'd have gotten a GoldWing but I'm an enthusiast, someone who likes to tweak and make changes so I've always gravitated to the V-twins and track bikes. If I could tell Kawasaki anything about the Vaquero it would be to go more retro, dump the water and increase the cooling area with fins, go to push rods, make it as old school as possible, be what HD isn't any more, but due to Big Brother those days are over unless you're willing to get your hands a bit dirty... Those who think the V-twins run warm should try track riding with a properly setup liter bike... My R1 with the underseat exhaust will smoke your backside and the heat you'll feel in your boots will make the Vaquero seem quite cool... |
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Just bought a new 2012 Valcan Voyager Trike and it does run hot at the 3/4 line + but so far has not went in to the red. Not complaining but that and the clunk when you shift are two things I need to get used too. I still like the Bike a lot.
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