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He and I both ride Harleys. That was obvious from the start, just making myself clear. Don't knock my Kawasaki and I won't tell you what a piece of sh*t your HD is.
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Not all Harley owners have the "we are better than you" attitude. The smart HD dealers won't perpetuate that crap, they know that metric owners are potential customers. I have never been treated badly by an HD dealer just because I don't ride one.
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Look... it was quite clear your HD-bashing is related to your experience. I just wasn't going to let the record stand that ALL HD's are a piece of cr@p, and that ALL HD owners are a piece of cr@p. That my friend is just simply not true... ;) I'll take HD-bashing only from someone that has put several thousands of miles on an HD first, and only if the HD they owned or ridden is a 2009 or newer. I don't know that you have ever owned one; thus for me your opinion gets disqualified -- with all due respect, unless you tell me otherwise. I see where you had an incident that, quite frankly, would have left me with a bad-taste for HD's also. To that... I'm sorry to have heard it went down that way. However, to group ALL dealers and owners in the same classification would be simply be wrong... because that simply is not true -- period! Some of the most hospitable dealers I have ever stopped into were Harley dealers -- even when I rode my Nomad. At my local dealer (Kegel Harley -- the world's oldest Harley dealership); there are always metrics of all size and shape there. It is not uncommon to see metrics stop at their diner for lunch. I don't believe if they had a terrible attitude that these people would stop-by any longer. So... your statement is wrong with my one example. Regarding a comparison between a Nomad and a HD... I don't believe I have "ripped" on Nomads (or any other metric -- unless in "fun") in such a way that you "rip" on HD's. From my perspective... there may be people on this site that might be interested in hearing "factual" statements, or comments from "real" experience about both bikes... and I would not want any "untruths" to be spewed about errantly about any bike without true experience or ownership... and/or based on personal anger. Untruths, or statements made based on anger do no one any good. ;) ...just saying. :)
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09-12-2010, 07:45 AM | #36 |
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They finily caught up to the 1999 Nomads!?? <G>
Next thing you know they will build a dependible motor! WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMMING TO??? .
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I didn't come to KawaNOW expecting to hear two guys that own HD's talk or joke about my beloved Nomad. I didn't come to KawaNOW to say anything bad about HD's or their riders. I have numerous relatives and friends who own HD's and I do ride with them and we all have a great time together. They don't say bad things about me or mine, and I do the same. The HD people I was referring to, are the people who will ride up, get off their trusty ride and make comments to me personally. I said they were ignorant, I didn't say "you two" were ignorant... If you read my comment again and bare in mind they you personally haven't insulted me. You will hopefully see that I was talking about personal encounters. And that I was not slamming all HD riders or all the dealers. If that's what you or anyone else got out of it, I DO APOLOGIZE. When I drive into the local HD dealer with my Nomad, they all seem to go on a coffee break. No warm and fuzzy feeling at that place. I have others that do not ride HD's tell me similar stories. And some have even gone out of state to buy their HD. after trying to talk to someone at this dealer. No I haven't ridden a HD for thousands of miles on a '09 or newer model. Get serious, that will never happen. And you can discount anything I have said if you so choose. I have ridden all of my relatives and friends HD's as well as riding many demos since 1968. Does this make me an expert? No. Does this give me an idea about whether "I" would be happy owning one? Yes. I like to joke around and laugh as much as anyone. But on a Nomad site, I didnt expect to read the post that were being made. Did I take them personally, yes. Should I take them personally? You tell me. Anything with a motor and tires will have problems. Is there a motorcycle that is perfect? NO. And there will never be. As they have said for a very long time, "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". I hope you enjoy your 7 hour ride. ;) Gerry
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Easy, guys. Shake hands and go get a beer or something.
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Kawasaki copied Harley with the Voyager.
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My Nomad shifted a lot better than the Ultra I rode yesterday, but the gearing on the Ultra was better.
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I have to agree with Scott. The HD dealers I have dealt with were pretty nice. No bashing at all, just playing up their own brand.
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Exactly. All I want is factual information. No bike is perfect and it's a good thing going into any brand to know what the facts are. I have only owned Kawasaki for the last 23 years. The Nomad was a good bike, very good in some ways, but perfect, no. We all have our unique requirements and hopefully we can find the ride that comes as close as it can and then modify it if necessary to meet the expectations of the owner. If the Nomad made 40 more HP, handled like an Ultra, and came with a Russell seat, I would have kept it. A Russell seat is doable, the other two aren't. So that being said, let the facts be the facts.
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Between my wife and I we have owned 4 Kawasakis, 1 Suzuki, 1 Yamaha, and 1 Honda. I put more miles than any on the Suzuki, and have had the most economical ownership from her current bike, the Aero. There were styling and engineering cues shared by all the manufacturers, and some were obviously copied from HD. And I don't care. I liked whichever bike I owned at the time, and admired others I didn't. I am not lusting after a Harley, as the Nomad only has 13000 miles on it and I am perfectly happy to keep it for a long time. When I decide on the next one, who knows what it will be! I don't come here to read about bashing of ANY brand, as I have friends who ride just about everything under the sun. Idiots are idiots no matter what they ride, or sell, for that matter. Lack of civility comes in all shapes, sizes and colors, as does courtesy.
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