Tires ain't pretty

Win_surfur · 01-02-2015, 10:57 AM

Understanding colder air & weather can cause air molecules to condense, I seem to be having to air up my tires more than I think I should have to.

Wondering what is a good product to add to my tires, to keep them from leaking air.

**GIBBY** · 01-02-2015, 11:15 AM

Nitrogen

dshelly · 01-02-2015, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Win_surfur

Understanding colder air & weather can cause air molecules to condense, I seem to be having to air up my tires more than I think I should have to.

Wondering what is a good product to add to my tires, to keep them from leaking air.

Is it just one or both?

blowndodge · 01-02-2015, 03:33 PM

Kryptonite.

Rubijk · 01-02-2015, 03:40 PM

You made sure that you don't have any leaks? Nitrogen IMO is a marketing scam, they will still fluctuate as much as compressed air. We keep having to fill aircraft tires every couple of days as the temp up here in calgary keeps going up and down. Plus the air that we breath is 97% nitrogen anyways.

Win_surfur · 01-02-2015, 04:09 PM

It seems to be both, although i can feel it in the fron more.

It could be leaking, and that's why I'm seeking advice on what to do. Like, is that green slime stuuf any good or ouwld that lend to an unbalanced tire\wheel?

OldSchool · 01-02-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Win_surfur

Understanding colder air & weather can cause air molecules to condense, I seem to be having to air up my tires more than I think I should have to.

Wondering what is a good product to add to my tires, to keep them from leaking air.

Here you are mate. Towards the bottom of the article is a section on tire pressure loss. Worth the reading.

http://www.motorcycle.com/rider-safe...101-91339.html

**Top Cat** · 01-02-2015, 05:05 PM

I think you should first find out where the air is leaking.
It could be just the valve stem core is leaking.
I had an 07 that leaked around the bead and had to put a tube in the tire.
I don't like sealers like Slime or Fix-A-Flat as they are real messy when you have to change the tire.

recumbentbob · 01-02-2015, 06:13 PM

Check your valve stems. The valve core may be a little loose.
They just need to be good and snug, don't over tighten them.

paul · 01-03-2015, 06:35 AM

Mick, I read the article. ROUND! My tires are supposed to be round? Well, that explains a lot right there?!

I just recently had the same issue. After some investigation, I found what seemed like a very tiny hole in the center of the tire almost like a pin prick as if some prick had left a pin in the road. Leak was real, real slow. Just bit the bullett and replaced.

Longhunter · 01-03-2015, 07:48 AM

I'd think you may have a small leak but....is it cold where you park the bike? I'd check the pressure, go for a ride and recheck the warmed up tires just to see. Warm soapy water poured on the valve stems and even on the tires might indicate a possible leak.
I just read an article from Edmonds that did a year long study on nitrogen. The claims are less pressure loss and less tire "rot" from the inside. Edmonds said the benefits of nitrogen are negligible at best. Of course with all things, there are opposite opinions.

skullbagger · 01-03-2015, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubijk

You made sure that you don't have any leaks? Nitrogen IMO is a marketing scam, they will still fluctuate as much as compressed air. We keep having to fill aircraft tires every couple of days as the temp up here in calgary keeps going up and down. Plus the air that we breath is 97% nitrogen anyways.

agreed nitrogen is horse shit, in the car business unbelievable customers come in for just nitrogen says it rides better yeah! 39.95 thank you
I also believe that's its worse than compressed air as far as leaking down in winter temps

Snake Ranch · 01-03-2015, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Win_surfur

It seems to be both, although i can feel it in the fron more.

It could be leaking, and that's why I'm seeking advice on what to do. Like, is that green slime stuuf any good or ouwld that lend to an unbalanced tire\wheel?

That green slime type stuff works good enough, and I was shown it would balance your tires like the dyna beads. The problem I ran into was corrosion. Years ago I put some sealant like that green slime in my Ford Ranger tires, it was water based and I didn't give it a thought, but the wheels were polished aluminum. I was having a flat fixed and when they removed the tire, the area where this sealant came in contact with aluminum was heavily corroded. It was so bad the tire shop had to take a grinder with a wire wheel to clean it up in hopes the bead would seal. After that I have not used that liquid type sealant.

That could have been 15 years ago, so meby they have corrected that problem. I would check into how the sealant you want to use, reacts with ferrous and nonferrous materials. Some of the coolants we use in the machine shops have corrosion inhibitors when machining metals, this could be some thing to ask about.

Snake Ranch · 01-03-2015, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skullbagger

agreed nitrogen is horse shit, in the car business unbelievable customers come in for just nitrogen says it rides better yeah! 39.95 thank you
I also believe that's its worse than compressed air as far as leaking down in winter temps

I worked for over 30 years on CAT equipment and at a CAT dealership. The major reason for using nitrogen in tires is because it is an inert gas and does not support combustion.

I don't know about aircraft tires but when we used nitrogen in the heavy equipment, we had to find out what the ambient temperature was, then, using a chart, fill the tire or accumulator with nitrogen to the pressure indicated on the conversion chart.

I went to the dark side about two months ago and I have a tire pressure monitor on my vaquero. I work a second shift and start around 4 pm. So I can head for the barn at 12:30, 2:30, or 4:30 AM.

What I have observed is my tire pressure can drop about 4 psi at night when the temp gets 50 and below. That's enough to change the way my skoot rides. I have not done it yet but i'm going to vacuum the tire and using one of my old charts put nitrogen in and see how the pressure reacts.

Time will tell.

pangea33 · 01-03-2015, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubijk

You made sure that you don't have any leaks? Nitrogen IMO is a marketing scam, they will still fluctuate as much as compressed air. We keep having to fill aircraft tires every couple of days as the temp up here in calgary keeps going up and down. Plus the air that we breath is 97% nitrogen anyways.

The nitrogen content of earth's atmosphere is roughly 78%. I agree with the marketing scam sentiment though. I just use a bicycle floor pump to keep my tires properly inflated. Never takes more than 5-10 pumps to top them off.

http://www.aquatext.com/tables/air.htm

01-02-2015, 10:57 AM	#1
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Rubijk Jr. Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 34	You made sure that you don't have any leaks? Nitrogen IMO is a marketing scam, they will still fluctuate as much as compressed air. We keep having to fill aircraft tires every couple of days as the temp up here in calgary keeps going up and down. Plus the air that we breath is 97% nitrogen anyways. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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Win_surfur Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 166	It seems to be both, although i can feel it in the fron more. It could be leaking, and that's why I'm seeking advice on what to do. Like, is that green slime stuuf any good or ouwld that lend to an unbalanced tire\wheel? __________________ Peace ~ Win_surfur ~~~~~~~~~~~~ 2011 Voyager Kury ISO grips V&H Twin Slash Cobra FI2000R Chucksters BAK Ray's Throttle Mod 4 Polk DB521 Alpine KTP-445U Amp
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Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	I think you should first find out where the air is leaking. It could be just the valve stem core is leaking. I had an 07 that leaked around the bead and had to put a tube in the tire. I don't like sealers like Slime or Fix-A-Flat as they are real messy when you have to change the tire. __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]
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01-02-2015, 06:13 PM	#9
recumbentbob Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Newburgh IN Posts: 3,404	Check your valve stems. The valve core may be a little loose. They just need to be good and snug, don't over tighten them. __________________ VBA #01084 "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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01-03-2015, 06:35 AM	#10
paul Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: magnolia, tx Posts: 1,500	Mick, I read the article. ROUND! My tires are supposed to be round? Well, that explains a lot right there?! I just recently had the same issue. After some investigation, I found what seemed like a very tiny hole in the center of the tire almost like a pin prick as if some prick had left a pin in the road. Leak was real, real slow. Just bit the bullett and replaced. __________________ The beatings will stop when morale improves. Last edited by paul; 01-03-2015 at 06:39 AM.
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01-03-2015, 07:48 AM	#11
Longhunter Jr. Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: NW Florida Posts: 22	I'd think you may have a small leak but....is it cold where you park the bike? I'd check the pressure, go for a ride and recheck the warmed up tires just to see. Warm soapy water poured on the valve stems and even on the tires might indicate a possible leak. I just read an article from Edmonds that did a year long study on nitrogen. The claims are less pressure loss and less tire "rot" from the inside. Edmonds said the benefits of nitrogen are negligible at best. Of course with all things, there are opposite opinions.
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