Torque specs

**Cajunrider** · 07-03-2010, 09:43 AM

Anybody know off-hand the torque specs for the header flange bolts on a 1600 Nomad? I may be missing it but can't find it in the service manual. Also, has anyone had any bad experience with the HD header gaskets PN #17048-98? I know they will have them in stock where my dealer won't have the OEM gaskets in stock. Thanks.

**ringadingh** · 07-03-2010, 10:26 AM

I use the HD gaskets and they work perfect. I don't torque them though, I tighten them up by hand, and have never had a problem. Anti seize the studs when you have it apart so future removal is easier. You don't want to deal with a broken stud in the cylinder head.

**Cajunrider** · 07-03-2010, 10:30 AM

Thanks Steve. I called the local HD dealer and the parts manager told me they have tons of the #17048-98 gaskets. I called my dealer and left a message on the parts voice mail asking if they had the gaskets in stock. I called over 2 hours ago and they haven't returned my call yet. It's either order the gaskets from CCP or Bike Bandit or use the HD gaskets. Dennis Kirk doesn't stock them.

**ringadingh** · 07-03-2010, 10:37 AM

Id just go and use the HD gaskets, they are only about $8.00 or so, and youll have them today. I just got back from my local dealer to pick up a couple parts and they're not open today, Its a long weekend here for us and a lot of places have shut down until Monday.

VulcanE · 07-03-2010, 10:42 AM

I just looked too, and can't find it either. I do have a list of torque values on things I do pretty often, and I have 17 FT Lbs written down for the torque value on the head pipe to head flange nuts. Clean the threads a little, and use a little never seize on the threads. And those HD gaskets are the ones I've been using with no problems

**Cajunrider** · 07-03-2010, 10:49 AM

I'll swing by the HD dealer and pick them up. $7.95 each. I have some high temperature never sieze that I'll use on the studs. Thanks again Steve and Cliff.

blowndodge · 07-03-2010, 11:00 AM

It just shows to "tighten them evenly" I'm guessing their size would be a max of 18lbft. Mitch.

cactusjack · 07-03-2010, 12:52 PM

I torque mine to 13 ft/lbs.

**Cajunrider** · 07-03-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cactusjack

I torque mine to 13 ft/lbs.

Did you use the HD or OEM gaskets?

dougster · 07-03-2010, 03:22 PM

I had one dealer tell me that Vance and Hines recommends the HD gaskets for the Baggers.

**Jared** · 07-03-2010, 03:38 PM

13 lbs seems low to me. I could be wrong, but I usually tighten mine snug and then retighten them after a few hundred miles.

+1 on the harley gaskets. They work great!!!!

chainsaw · 07-03-2010, 04:50 PM

What kind of problem do you have Mitch?

**Cajunrider** · 07-03-2010, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by "CHAINSAW"

What kind of problem do you have Mitch?

Dennis Kirk twisted my arm and made me buy aftermarket pipes. ::)

cactusjack · 07-03-2010, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajunrider

Quote:

Originally Posted by cactusjack

I torque mine to 13 ft/lbs.

Did you use the HD or OEM gaskets?

OEM.

macmac · 07-03-2010, 07:17 PM

I'ld low ball it to 8 ft lbs. basicly to snugg back and forth evenly and to crush the gaskets. Not real tight and anti size the threads. I go more than that and wire brush the threads by hand, them mark off the threads the nut will cover and paint whats exposed with hi temp flat black. The paint lasts about long enough before something else happens and the pipes need down again. So far i have only used Ma Kawii gaskets there.

I took the number to a HD dealer and they looked at me like I was nuts. Not a real bad call, but then I just wanted that gaskets set.

After the gaskets are sealed and i know it I ride a couple hundred miles and re-snug COLD.

07-03-2010, 10:26 AM	#2
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Torque specs I use the HD gaskets and they work perfect. I don't torque them though, I tighten them up by hand, and have never had a problem. Anti seize the studs when you have it apart so future removal is easier. You don't want to deal with a broken stud in the cylinder head. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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07-03-2010, 10:30 AM	#3
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Torque specs Thanks Steve. I called the local HD dealer and the parts manager told me they have tons of the #17048-98 gaskets. I called my dealer and left a message on the parts voice mail asking if they had the gaskets in stock. I called over 2 hours ago and they haven't returned my call yet. It's either order the gaskets from CCP or Bike Bandit or use the HD gaskets. Dennis Kirk doesn't stock them. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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07-03-2010, 10:37 AM	#4
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Torque specs Id just go and use the HD gaskets, they are only about $8.00 or so, and youll have them today. I just got back from my local dealer to pick up a couple parts and they're not open today, Its a long weekend here for us and a lot of places have shut down until Monday. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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07-03-2010, 10:42 AM	#5
VulcanE Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cartersville, Georgia Posts: 4,838	Torque specs I just looked too, and can't find it either. I do have a list of torque values on things I do pretty often, and I have 17 FT Lbs written down for the torque value on the head pipe to head flange nuts. Clean the threads a little, and use a little never seize on the threads. And those HD gaskets are the ones I've been using with no problems __________________ Cliff "VulcanE" Evans 2005 Blue & Silver 1600 Nomad VBA # 320 VROC # 20381 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-03-2010, 10:49 AM	#6
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Torque specs I'll swing by the HD dealer and pick them up. $7.95 each. I have some high temperature never sieze that I'll use on the studs. Thanks again Steve and Cliff. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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07-03-2010, 09:43 AM	#1
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Torque specs Anybody know off-hand the torque specs for the header flange bolts on a 1600 Nomad? I may be missing it but can't find it in the service manual. Also, has anyone had any bad experience with the HD header gaskets PN #17048-98? I know they will have them in stock where my dealer won't have the OEM gaskets in stock. Thanks. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-03-2010, 11:00 AM	#7
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Torque specs It just shows to "tighten them evenly" I'm guessing their size would be a max of 18lbft. Mitch. __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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07-03-2010, 12:52 PM	#8
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Torque specs I torque mine to 13 ft/lbs. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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07-03-2010, 03:22 PM	#10
dougster Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Crete, Nebraska Posts: 679	Torque specs I had one dealer tell me that Vance and Hines recommends the HD gaskets for the Baggers. __________________ Doug Witzke - "Dougster" 2003 Nomad 1500 VBA# 740
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07-03-2010, 03:38 PM	#11
Jared Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greeley, Colorado Posts: 6,772	Torque specs 13 lbs seems low to me. I could be wrong, but I usually tighten mine snug and then retighten them after a few hundred miles. +1 on the harley gaskets. They work great!!!! __________________ Jared VBA #1051 (Former President)
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07-03-2010, 04:50 PM	#12
chainsaw Sr. Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 2,732	Torque specs What kind of problem do you have Mitch?
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07-03-2010, 07:17 PM	#15
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Torque specs I'ld low ball it to 8 ft lbs. basicly to snugg back and forth evenly and to crush the gaskets. Not real tight and anti size the threads. I go more than that and wire brush the threads by hand, them mark off the threads the nut will cover and paint whats exposed with hi temp flat black. The paint lasts about long enough before something else happens and the pipes need down again. So far i have only used Ma Kawii gaskets there. I took the number to a HD dealer and they looked at me like I was nuts. Not a real bad call, but then I just wanted that gaskets set. After the gaskets are sealed and i know it I ride a couple hundred miles and re-snug COLD. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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