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Old 06-07-2014, 11:00 PM   #1
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gas in the oil

Ok, I did my first oil change today, it was a bit overdue at 1300 miles but the dealer can't get me in for first service till the 14th.

I drained out the old oil and got a bit on my hand, just wiped it off and finished the change. After I was done my hand smelled like gasoline. I couldn't figure out where I got gas on me. I smelled the oil in the drain pan and it reeked of gas. Checking the oil level in the bike after a ride the dipstick smells like gas too.

Google searches tell be it's probably a faulty fuel petcock or the float in the carb is stuck open. Nothing about fi bikes.

What the hell is going on here? The only thing I've done is put slip on exhaust on her.



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Old 06-08-2014, 06:50 AM   #2
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gas in the oil

Take it to the dealer and have them look at the stick! document what They tell You and see what They say .But if it is getting gas in the oil You should not ride it .They should step right up and take care of it .
 
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:33 AM   #3
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I am assuming this is a new bike with only 1300 miles on it, you don't have any info listed in you sig line.
Has your oil level gone up since the change?
If there is fuel getting in the gas, I'd guess it might be a leaky injector letting some drip into a cylinder when you shut off the bike.
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:38 AM   #4
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I would save the oil you drained out of it and take it to the dealer when you take the bike in.

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Old 06-08-2014, 09:42 AM   #5
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What year and model bike is it?

I think the oil they put in new bikes is break in oil, at least it used to be. It's thinner and I remember when I did my first oil change on my 1600 Nomad the oil was beat to piss and stunk. Not so much after that. If you have a 1700, did you drain both drain locations? There are two plugs.
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I think it is a brand new Vaquero ?
 
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I think it is a brand new Vaquero ?
Should be a rule that posters put the year, model and brand in the title. It is on other forums I am on, but then BMW people tend to be anal. If it's a 1700, my comments apply. The 900 is like the 800, so it has one drain plug, but has a screen as well. Not sure if the 1700 has a screen. It's a real good idea to clean the screen the first time around.
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It's a 13 vaquero. Dunno how to get my Sig line to show up
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It's a 13 vaquero. Dunno how to get my Sig line to show up
Did you drain both plugs?
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Yeah, I pulled both drain plugs and filter. The original oil was black as coal. I'm gonna put up some of the old oil and block off the pair valve today. Love this ride but glad it's under warranty.
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Yeah, I pulled both drain plugs and filter. The original oil was black as coal. I'm gonna put up some of the old oil and block off the pair valve today. Love this ride but glad it's under warranty.
And it will be, especially after 1300 miles. Not sure what you replaced it with, but you might want to dump that oil after 3000 miles and then go on schedule.
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And it will be, especially after 1300 miles. Not sure what you replaced it with, but you might want to dump that oil after 3000 miles and then go on schedule.
I used valvoline 10-40 dino bike oil. I plan on going synthetic after the next change if this issue is resolved. I'll be all over the dealer about it next week.

As for new users putting info in the Sig line, gotta give folks time to figure out how.
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The only way I can think of that gas would be in the oil is one of your fuel injectors is leaking fuel into the cylinder. The gas would work itself past the piston rings into the crankcase. If there is raw gas dripping into one cylinder when you start it up I would expect a backfire from the muffler due to the excessive fuel collecting in there. Is it doing that?
Whatever the case, I would take it to the dealer right away.
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I used valvoline 10-40 dino bike oil. I plan on going synthetic after the next change if this issue is resolved. I'll be all over the dealer about it next week.

As for new users putting info in the Sig line, gotta give folks time to figure out how.

I am no oil expert but I have followed the various oil threads on the forum so I know several folks have reported switching to synthetic early in the bike's life and reported no problems.

Since I am going into S. Utah and NV this Aug. I intended to switch to syn before the trip. This was based on the claims of bikes running cooler when using syn. I mentioned this to the service mgr at my local dealer and he said the 1700 transmission doesn't complete it's break-in until 10,000 mi. and Maw Kaw recommends non-synthetic oil until them. Fortunately I'll hit that milestone before Aug.

Take it for what it may be worth.

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I am no oil expert but I have followed the various oil threads on the forum so I know several folks have reported switching to synthetic early in the bike's life and reported no problems.

Since I am going into S. Utah and NV this Aug. I intended to switch to syn before the trip. This was based on the claims of bikes running cooler when using syn. I mentioned this to the service mgr at my local dealer and he said the 1700 transmission doesn't complete it's break-in until 10,000 mi. and Maw Kaw recommends non-synthetic oil until them. Fortunately I'll hit that milestone before Aug.

Take it for what it may be worth.

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Well I switched to synthetic kawa oil at my first oil change on my 1600 in 2008, no issues. I kinda doubt it would take 10,000 miles to brake in a tranny.
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