Motorcycles and Firearms

jwg383 · 08-20-2011, 10:18 AM

How many people ride with a sidearm? Sometimes when I'm riding in a new area, I find myself in some rather unsavory places. It makes me feel very exposed and uncomfortable at times.

Mississippi laws are clear about firearms in your vehicle, (its considered a extension of your home) but I'm not sure if this also applies to a motorcycle. We do however, have a concealed weapons permit, which I am checking into.

Has anybody dealt with this issue, ride with a pistol?

All thoughts are appreciated. Thanks

chucks1911 · 08-20-2011, 10:35 AM

I'm not sure how many guys will fess up, but I will. I carry most of the time. I have a concealed weapon license. Actually, I'm a certified instructor as well.

I generally carry a 1911. Usually not a full sized one. Strong side outside the waistband holster, with my shirt out and covering it. I also sometimes carry a Kahr PM-9. It will fit in my vest pocket, or the pocket of the mustang bib on my tank. I will usually transfer it to my pocket when leaving the bike when its in the bib pocket.

**Idaho** · 08-20-2011, 10:40 AM

As Chuck noted, lots do but few will admit it. Most have CCW permits that do pack a sidearm.

Except Mac but he marches to a different tune. :-)

**coacha** · 08-20-2011, 10:44 AM

Doesn't Mac have a 50 mounted to his crash bars? :)

I don't at the present time but will be getting my concealed carry this year.

Bull Durham · 08-20-2011, 10:56 AM

Ron,

As much Iron Butt riding as you do, just be careful of all the different states you ride through and their carry laws.

cajun2wheels · 08-20-2011, 11:05 AM

I have a CCW but when riding with a group I very seldom carry.When I'm by myself I always carry.I want to be prepared if I brake down in the middle of nowhere and a truck load of those Deliverance type red necks pull up with a twinkle in their eyes.

usranger74 · 08-20-2011, 11:05 AM

Most States include a motorcycle in their definition of a "motor vehicle'

The following is found in USC Title 18 -MOTOR VEHICLE
Includes an automobile, automobile truck, automobile wagon, motorcycle, or any other self-propelled vehicle designed for running on land but not on rails. 18 USC

MS State law makes it clear you can carry a firearm in a motor vehicle. So, if you are carrying it in your "bags", you are within the law. However, carrying it while sitting "on" the motor vehicle is another question.

I would not think it would be to hard to ck with local PDs to find out.

Also - if you do get a concealed carry permit, remember it will not be recognized by all States.

Bull Durham · 08-20-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cajun2wheels

I have a CCW but when riding with a group I very seldom carry.When I'm by myself I always carry.I want to be prepared if I brake down in the middle of nowhere and a truck load of those Deliverance type red necks pull up with a twinkle in their eyes.

C2W,

Being a Yankee, are you saying not everyone down south drives old pickup trucks and doesn't have family resemblance to Deliverance?

<squeal, squeal> ;)

**Cajunrider** · 08-20-2011, 02:38 PM

Yes, always with CC permit. I do check reciprocation with Louisiana before a multi state trip.

mac · 08-20-2011, 04:06 PM

Check local laws, but in TX we have a MPA that covers your vehicle like your home similar to yours, but you need to get off your bike sometime - thus nice to have your CHL.

I've ridden both with IWB and a fanny pack (scrote tote actually). Always trying to figure what's best for the situation. Luckily I do have driver's back rest that keeps my shirt down while riding. It's been too hot here lately to enjoy riding (been 104 all week) so haven't got out much this summer.

VulcanE · 08-20-2011, 04:17 PM

Like the old saying goes..............It's better to have it and not need it, than it is to need it and not have it! ;)

I do have the concealed weapons permit, but as stated, you need to verify which states honor your permit.

aldridgekennedy · 08-20-2011, 06:01 PM

Just FYI. The old .30 carbine with a paratrooper stock and 2 30 rd. mags fillled with CorBon ammo fit the Nomad bags perfectly.

cajun2wheels · 08-20-2011, 06:05 PM

Being a Yankee, are you saying not everyone down south drives old pickup trucks and doesn't have family resemblance to Deliverance?

<squeal, squeal> ;)
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I moved from northern Illinois to Louisiana many years ago.I'm considered a Damned Yankee.That's a Yankee that moved south and won't go back.I also still have most of my teeth and I have never worn bib overalls.I do however drive a pickup and it doesn't have a ding or scratch on it.It doesn't have a gun rack or tobacco juice running down the side either.People around here know I'm not from the south and they still like me most of the time.All in all I love the south and wouldn't live anywhere else.

cactusjack · 08-20-2011, 06:39 PM

I have an AZ concealed carry permit, even though one is no longer required to carry concealed in AZ. I still wanted one because it is valid in something like 33 other states, but not California - so I did not bring it with me . I'm in So Cal right now, on my way to the Redwoods Rally.

I do a lot of riding in remote areas, anything outside of the greater Phoenix area is remote. You never know who you might run into in remote places.

Bdog · 08-20-2011, 07:25 PM

In Canada..its against the law to carry a concealed weapon. I would imagine it would be extremely difficult to get a permit too. If your an American and you cross the border with a weapon..expect some rapid jail time!

08-20-2011, 10:18 AM	#1
jwg383 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Mississippi Posts: 95	Motorcycles and Firearms How many people ride with a sidearm? Sometimes when I'm riding in a new area, I find myself in some rather unsavory places. It makes me feel very exposed and uncomfortable at times. Mississippi laws are clear about firearms in your vehicle, (its considered a extension of your home) but I'm not sure if this also applies to a motorcycle. We do however, have a concealed weapons permit, which I am checking into. Has anybody dealt with this issue, ride with a pistol? All thoughts are appreciated. Thanks __________________ Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-20-2011, 10:35 AM	#2
chucks1911 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Sterling, Oklahoma Posts: 361	Motorcycles and Firearms I'm not sure how many guys will fess up, but I will. I carry most of the time. I have a concealed weapon license. Actually, I'm a certified instructor as well. I generally carry a 1911. Usually not a full sized one. Strong side outside the waistband holster, with my shirt out and covering it. I also sometimes carry a Kahr PM-9. It will fit in my vest pocket, or the pocket of the mustang bib on my tank. I will usually transfer it to my pocket when leaving the bike when its in the bib pocket. __________________ Chuck Stephens 12 Harley Davidson Electra Glide Ultra Classic 07 Nomad (Traded) 86 Kawasaki 454 LTD VBA member #1578 HOG Member #4541840 AMA Member # 2700186
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08-20-2011, 10:40 AM	#3
Idaho Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pocatello, Idaho Posts: 5,241	Motorcycles and Firearms As Chuck noted, lots do but few will admit it. Most have CCW permits that do pack a sidearm. Except Mac but he marches to a different tune. :-) __________________ Idaho (aka Curmudgeon) Blue Knights Idaho III VBA #110 VROC #24864 IBA #49753 2007 Nomad 86,000 miles Bud Smalley Pocatello, Idaho Idaho Jack Adapter
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08-20-2011, 10:44 AM	#4
coacha Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Haysville, KS Posts: 6,259	Motorcycles and Firearms Doesn't Mac have a 50 mounted to his crash bars? :) I don't at the present time but will be getting my concealed carry this year. __________________ Ron "Coach" Allan, Haysville, KS 1999 Nomad Wine and Red "KawaTanker" 2009 BMW R1200RT 2003 BMW K1200LT "Magic Carpet" DOA 11/7/2015 VBA #00291 IBA # 41995 DS #320 '08 Elkins, WV; '09 Helen, GA; '09 Custer, SD; '10 Stanton, VA; '11 Maggie Valley; '12 Townsend, TN; '13 Estes Park; '13 Blairsville, GA; '15 Eureka Springs; '16 Helen; '18 Custer, SD
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08-20-2011, 10:56 AM	#5
Bull Durham Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Pittsburgh, PA area Posts: 785	Motorcycles and Firearms Ron, As much Iron Butt riding as you do, just be careful of all the different states you ride through and their carry laws. __________________ 2005 Kawasaki Nomad VBA #1608 KZR #25622 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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08-20-2011, 11:05 AM	#6
cajun2wheels Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria La. Posts: 636	Motorcycles and Firearms I have a CCW but when riding with a group I very seldom carry.When I'm by myself I always carry.I want to be prepared if I brake down in the middle of nowhere and a truck load of those Deliverance type red necks pull up with a twinkle in their eyes. __________________
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08-20-2011, 11:05 AM	#7
usranger74 Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: La Vista, NE Posts: 4,060	Motorcycles and Firearms Most States include a motorcycle in their definition of a "motor vehicle' The following is found in USC Title 18 -MOTOR VEHICLE Includes an automobile, automobile truck, automobile wagon, motorcycle, or any other self-propelled vehicle designed for running on land but not on rails. 18 USC MS State law makes it clear you can carry a firearm in a motor vehicle. So, if you are carrying it in your "bags", you are within the law. However, carrying it while sitting "on" the motor vehicle is another question. I would not think it would be to hard to ck with local PDs to find out. Also - if you do get a concealed carry permit, remember it will not be recognized by all States. __________________ Bill (usranger74) Blake 2016 Goldwing VBA # 1505
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08-20-2011, 02:38 PM	#9
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Motorcycles and Firearms Yes, always with CC permit. I do check reciprocation with Louisiana before a multi state trip. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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08-20-2011, 04:06 PM	#10
mac Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Houston, Texas USA Posts: 265	Motorcycles and Firearms Check local laws, but in TX we have a MPA that covers your vehicle like your home similar to yours, but you need to get off your bike sometime - thus nice to have your CHL. I've ridden both with IWB and a fanny pack (scrote tote actually). Always trying to figure what's best for the situation. Luckily I do have driver's back rest that keeps my shirt down while riding. It's been too hot here lately to enjoy riding (been 104 all week) so haven't got out much this summer. __________________ ~Ride Safe~ Mac Dennis "Master Mac" McHenry VROC#880, VBA#673, DarkSide#273 '15 Harley-Davidson Ultra Limited '05 Vulcan 1600 Nomad (Left the nest) '02 Vulcan 1500 Classic Fi (RIP) '95 Vulcan 750, (Retired) Houston/Klien, Tx
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08-20-2011, 04:17 PM	#11
VulcanE Sr. Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Cartersville, Georgia Posts: 4,838	Motorcycles and Firearms Like the old saying goes..............It's better to have it and not need it, than it is to need it and not have it! ;) I do have the concealed weapons permit, but as stated, you need to verify which states honor your permit. __________________ Cliff "VulcanE" Evans 2005 Blue & Silver 1600 Nomad VBA # 320 VROC # 20381
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08-20-2011, 06:01 PM	#12
aldridgekennedy Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 200	Motorcycles and Firearms Just FYI. The old .30 carbine with a paratrooper stock and 2 30 rd. mags fillled with CorBon ammo fit the Nomad bags perfectly.
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08-20-2011, 06:05 PM	#13
cajun2wheels Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Alexandria La. Posts: 636	Motorcycles and Firearms Being a Yankee, are you saying not everyone down south drives old pickup trucks and doesn't have family resemblance to Deliverance? <squeal, squeal> ;) [/quote] I moved from northern Illinois to Louisiana many years ago.I'm considered a Damned Yankee.That's a Yankee that moved south and won't go back.I also still have most of my teeth and I have never worn bib overalls.I do however drive a pickup and it doesn't have a ding or scratch on it.It doesn't have a gun rack or tobacco juice running down the side either.People around here know I'm not from the south and they still like me most of the time.All in all I love the south and wouldn't live anywhere else. __________________
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08-20-2011, 06:39 PM	#14
cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Motorcycles and Firearms I have an AZ concealed carry permit, even though one is no longer required to carry concealed in AZ. I still wanted one because it is valid in something like 33 other states, but not California - so I did not bring it with me . I'm in So Cal right now, on my way to the Redwoods Rally. I do a lot of riding in remote areas, anything outside of the greater Phoenix area is remote. You never know who you might run into in remote places. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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08-20-2011, 07:25 PM	#15
Bdog Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Ft. Mcmurray Ab. Posts: 1,447	Motorcycles and Firearms In Canada..its against the law to carry a concealed weapon. I would imagine it would be extremely difficult to get a permit too. If your an American and you cross the border with a weapon..expect some rapid jail time! __________________
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