Error code 58 - Page 4

Scootergptx · 10-28-2016, 01:12 PM

Had a nice talk with Ivan. Gave me the things to check, also thinks I probably have a good ecu, and a bad mechanic. If I'd have gotten it a day earlier or 3 days later, I'd have time to check it all out.

Broke a tooth this morning, so maybe after the dentist Monday I can get a good look at it. After the gas wears off. ;)

Scootergptx · 11-01-2016, 10:35 AM

Ok, got a good look at what was going on Friday evening. The pcv was not unhooked, like they said it was. So I took that off. Got the wires coated with some liquid electrical tape and put the tank back down. Pulled the new ecu out and put the old one in. Immediately through the 58 code again, and went into the limp mode. Switched back to the new one, and with the pcv being off the bike completely, runs better now.

Not near as good as with the Ivanized ecu. And of course I have the backfire issues now. Knew that was going to happen. With the holidays coming up, and paying for the bikes service, getting the new ecu sent to Ivan will have to wait till next year.

But at least the bike is back home and out on the road again.

**Kawalski Rider** · 11-02-2016, 01:16 PM

WOW!! Just read through your saga.. Hope your broken tooth ordeal works out. Those are never fun.

It occurred to me while reading yesterdays update, could the PCV be the catalyst of your issues? And possibly have damaged the original Ivanized ECU? It sounds like the PCV you just took off is a splice in style, not a plug and play. That makes diagnosing the problem more difficult not being able to just plug it back in to see how the bike run with it reinstalled. Good job your might Vaquero is back to running condition.

I would love to hear Ivan's diagnosis on the ECU you send him.

Good luck

Scootergptx · 11-02-2016, 01:32 PM

When I talked with Ivan, he said he'd need another 1700 to test it on. Think he was just going to put mine on it and see what happens. I may check with him later and see if a reflash would cost the same. If so, I'll just do the new one next year.

The pcv is the one made for the 1700. I took it over to the computer last night and plugged it in. Can still change out maps, so I'm beginning to think the only error was taking it to this shop. I did put Dave's best map so far back on it. Maybe I'll put it back on again just to see. It was still pretty much hooked up, so I would think if it caused any problems, it would have then too.

Oh yeah, they also forgot to hook up the tank vent hose. No big deal, but it's clear they have no quality control on what they do.

**Kawalski Rider** · 11-03-2016, 12:40 AM

Oh lucky you.. And just think, you got the privalage of paying for all that quality service.

DragonLady58 · 11-03-2016, 12:14 PM

As much money and all you spend on the new bikes, all the electronics on them, they're way too damn complicated. And its all about emissions, plain and simple. Thats the reason I will never ever get a new bike again.
There are the warranty co.'s out there that are just out there to rip you off and lead you on. Just make doubly sure you have a good one.
Good luck....

Snake Ranch · 11-05-2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonLady58

As much money and all you spend on the new bikes, all the electronics on them, they're way too damn complicated. And its all about emissions, plain and simple. Thats the reason I will never ever get a new bike again.
There are the warranty co.'s out there that are just out there to rip you off and lead you on. Just make doubly sure you have a good one.
Good luck....

When I bought my skoot it came with the 3 year warrant. Just before the 3 year warranty ran out, I bought a 3 year extension from Kawasaki, Kawasaki Protection Plus for $693.00. No deductible, Bumper to bumper, so to speak.

The factory sent me a letter. I didn't respond to it right away. But called the factory later when I was ready to purchase the extension.

It has paid for itself, replaced one rear shock, and the engine was pulled to replace the HLA's. The rear cylinder set can't be removed inframe.

Sometimes saving a nickel ends up costing a dime. Don't ask me how I know, but I can say "Buy the best and cry only once." A lesson I learned over time.

**smokier** · 11-06-2016, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Snake Ranch

Sometimes saving a nickel ends up costing a dime. Don't ask me how I know, but I can say "Buy the best and cry only once." A lesson I learned over time.

Wise words SnakeRanch, wise words.

Ride safe,
Smokier

10-28-2016, 01:12 PM	#46
Scootergptx Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 654	Had a nice talk with Ivan. Gave me the things to check, also thinks I probably have a good ecu, and a bad mechanic. If I'd have gotten it a day earlier or 3 days later, I'd have time to check it all out. Broke a tooth this morning, so maybe after the dentist Monday I can get a good look at it. After the gas wears off. ;) __________________ 2011 Vaquero V&H slip ons Roaring Toyz intake PCV (removed) Ivan's ECU flash Login or Register to Remove Ads Last edited by Scootergptx; 10-28-2016 at 01:16 PM.
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11-01-2016, 10:35 AM	#47
Scootergptx Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 654	Ok, got a good look at what was going on Friday evening. The pcv was not unhooked, like they said it was. So I took that off. Got the wires coated with some liquid electrical tape and put the tank back down. Pulled the new ecu out and put the old one in. Immediately through the 58 code again, and went into the limp mode. Switched back to the new one, and with the pcv being off the bike completely, runs better now. Not near as good as with the Ivanized ecu. And of course I have the backfire issues now. Knew that was going to happen. With the holidays coming up, and paying for the bikes service, getting the new ecu sent to Ivan will have to wait till next year. But at least the bike is back home and out on the road again. __________________ 2011 Vaquero V&H slip ons Roaring Toyz intake PCV (removed) Ivan's ECU flash
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11-02-2016, 01:16 PM	#48
Kawalski Rider Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 305	WOW!! Just read through your saga.. Hope your broken tooth ordeal works out. Those are never fun. It occurred to me while reading yesterdays update, could the PCV be the catalyst of your issues? And possibly have damaged the original Ivanized ECU? It sounds like the PCV you just took off is a splice in style, not a plug and play. That makes diagnosing the problem more difficult not being able to just plug it back in to see how the bike run with it reinstalled. Good job your might Vaquero is back to running condition. I would love to hear Ivan's diagnosis on the ECU you send him. Good luck __________________ Cheers, David Baughan aka: Kawalski Rider VBA #03514 2002 Vulcan VN1500L Nomad fi Pearl Burnish Beige/Pearl Luster Beige
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11-02-2016, 01:32 PM	#49
Scootergptx Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Grand Prairie, TX Posts: 654	When I talked with Ivan, he said he'd need another 1700 to test it on. Think he was just going to put mine on it and see what happens. I may check with him later and see if a reflash would cost the same. If so, I'll just do the new one next year. The pcv is the one made for the 1700. I took it over to the computer last night and plugged it in. Can still change out maps, so I'm beginning to think the only error was taking it to this shop. I did put Dave's best map so far back on it. Maybe I'll put it back on again just to see. It was still pretty much hooked up, so I would think if it caused any problems, it would have then too. Oh yeah, they also forgot to hook up the tank vent hose. No big deal, but it's clear they have no quality control on what they do. __________________ 2011 Vaquero V&H slip ons Roaring Toyz intake PCV (removed) Ivan's ECU flash
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11-03-2016, 12:40 AM	#50
Kawalski Rider Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Auburn, Washington Posts: 305	Oh lucky you.. And just think, you got the privalage of paying for all that quality service. __________________ Cheers, David Baughan aka: Kawalski Rider VBA #03514 2002 Vulcan VN1500L Nomad fi Pearl Burnish Beige/Pearl Luster Beige Login or Register to Remove Ads
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11-03-2016, 12:14 PM	#51
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	As much money and all you spend on the new bikes, all the electronics on them, they're way too damn complicated. And its all about emissions, plain and simple. Thats the reason I will never ever get a new bike again. There are the warranty co.'s out there that are just out there to rip you off and lead you on. Just make doubly sure you have a good one. Good luck.... __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride!
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