To be continued...

Eugene · 10-09-2020, 01:49 PM

Hi, everybody! So, they insist on the production of the big Vulcans 1700 for year 2021. The models seem to be a bit out of modern technical progress having been produced unchanged for 11 years. What do you think?
https://www.kawasaki.com/motorcycle/...ROUPLIST-_-MPP

ballbreaker · 10-09-2020, 02:05 PM

Could be worse Eugene. It could have an 8 track LOL

alwhite00 · 10-09-2020, 02:24 PM

I wonder why they have never updated the Voyager or introduce a new model of it. I like them a lot but by the time you add all the amenities it's big $$$

Eugene · 10-09-2020, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by alwhite00

I wonder why they have never updated the Voyager or introduce a new model of it. I like them a lot but by the time you add all the amenities it's big $$$

Nevertheless, Voyager looks still nice. But it needs LED Headlight, usb, Bluetooth and forced engine. To say truth, I was sure they would release the all new Voyager for year 2021.

Chuck A. · 10-24-2020, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eugene

Nevertheless, Voyager looks still nice..............

Couple years ago I went to a local Harley dealer for a benefit ride. Had a lady come over to me and told me I had the best looking Harley there. She had been in the dealership and didn't see one like it. Ask had I done alot of upgrades to it. I couldn't refuse telling her it was a test model for the new Harley look.

ballbreaker · 10-09-2020, 04:40 PM

I am driving a 2015 Vaquero which Kawasaki has done basically nothing to, the same as the Voyageur. I was a diehard Nomad owner till it was discontinued in 2014. Hope the Vaquero and Voyageur don't go the same way as the Nomad did. Anything I have wanted to change is aftermarket of which there isn't that much available. By the way Eugene what is a forced engine. Never heard of that term before.

Eugene · 10-09-2020, 05:09 PM

I meant they should have updated the engine, having given it more power.

redjay · 10-09-2020, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Eugene

I meant they should have updated the engine, having given it more power.

Add more power and it would need a bigger gas tank to give it an acceptable range. A bigger gas tank would add more weight. The bike would cost more.

As it is now the Voyager is somewhat of a bargain compared to a Goldwing a Yamaha Venture, or a fully equipped Harley.

ballbreaker · 10-09-2020, 07:43 PM

Thanks for the explanation. Since my bike has had all the Ivanizing done to it I find there is adequate power for me considering it is a touring bike with lots of weight. As Redjay says more power causes more costs. I am quite happy with the Stage 1 that has been added. Everyone is different though

Eugene · 10-10-2020, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ballbreaker

Thanks for the explanation. Since my bike has had all the Ivanizing done to it I find there is adequate power for me considering it is a touring bike with lots of weight. As Redjay says more power causes more costs. I am quite happy with the Stage 1 that has been added. Everyone is different though

What is Stage 1? Do you mean the last Ivan's® ECU flash version (updated 9-2017) with "C4B" engraving on the back of your ECU?
No more costs! In spite of the ecological rein, the engineers of Kawasaki should have got additional horse powers from their big 1700cc engine, rather than mere 73 ones. At least, other motorcycle manufacturers succeed.

**smokier** · 10-10-2020, 07:40 AM

Greetings,

According to friends of mine who own a dealership. Motorcycle sales dropped off a couple of years ago. Sales have not recovered or rebounded. Yamaha all but dropped the STAR line due to lack of sales, save the VENTURE.

Honda doesn't have a big cruiser line-up anymore.

Kawasaki is probably saving R&D money, putting in market segments that ARE still moving. Side-by-side, Sportbikes, etc.

The HD and Polaris (Indian) line-ups seem stagnant as well. Yes, the Challenger is relatively new, but one new bike in four years...???

I don't know of course, just a correlation of information and observations.

It is a sad thought

, for those of us who do ride two wheeled cruisers and tourers.

Ride safe,
Smokier

DragonLady58 · 10-11-2020, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by smokier

Greetings,

According to friends of mine who own a dealership. Motorcycle sales dropped off a couple of years ago. Sales have not recovered or rebounded. Yamaha all but dropped the STAR line due to lack of sales, save the VENTURE.

Honda doesn't have a big cruiser line-up anymore.

Kawasaki is probably saving R&D money, putting in market segments that ARE still moving. Side-by-side, Sportbikes, etc.

The HD and Polaris (Indian) line-ups seem stagnant as well. Yes, the Challenger is relatively new, but one new bike in four years...???

I don't know of course, just a correlation of information and observations.

It is a sad thought

, for those of us who do ride two wheeled cruisers and tourers.

Ride safe,found one
Smokier

thats why some of us use grab the older used baggers and rebuild them....I have a old HD Duo-Glide in boxes....Have a Antique Tag for it.
Wonder when they outlaw the gas engine if we'll be able to rebuild our bikes and ride them under the old classic/antique laws and tags?

K&N filters, hold them up to the light, try and look thru the filter, especially around the edges. If you can see thru it in places, just move on to the next. Last K&N filter I bought had one, looked thru 2 before I found a passing filter....

redjay · 10-10-2020, 08:27 AM

I spoke with a Kawasaki dealer a week ago who told me he has had his best year ever in sales, mostly off road vehicles, dirt bikes and quads.

ballbreaker · 10-10-2020, 10:41 AM

Hey Eugene: Stage 1 includes Ivan's flash, aftermarket exhaust and air mods in my opinion. I have Ivan's flash , V&H exhaust and just a stock K&N filter change. Lots have said the big air intake kits make a huge difference. My mods make for better drivability for what I need. Others will probably chime in as well. Quite a few options out there. It all comes down to how much you want to spend. These are touring bikes not cruisers.

elguapo · 10-10-2020, 11:26 AM

My ECU is on the way back from Ivan. I had a few questions and he took the time to answer all of them, nice guy to talk to. I will be adding V&H pipes to my setup down the road. When I do this Ivan indicated that the ECU doesn’t need reprogramming, only if I change the Air Intake. According to him by changing the air intake will add an extra 9 horse power to the bike.
To me the juice is not worth the squeeze, spend a few hundred dollars to get that extra horse power. We’re all different and have different opinions and taste, totally respect that.

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alwhite00 Advanced Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 539	I wonder why they have never updated the Voyager or introduce a new model of it. I like them a lot but by the time you add all the amenities it's big $$$ __________________ Tighten it till it strips and back it off a quarter turn.
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smokier Join Date: May 2015 Location: DBQ Iowa Posts: 1,807	Greetings, According to friends of mine who own a dealership. Motorcycle sales dropped off a couple of years ago. Sales have not recovered or rebounded. Yamaha all but dropped the STAR line due to lack of sales, save the VENTURE. Honda doesn't have a big cruiser line-up anymore. Kawasaki is probably saving R&D money, putting in market segments that ARE still moving. Side-by-side, Sportbikes, etc. The HD and Polaris (Indian) line-ups seem stagnant as well. Yes, the Challenger is relatively new, but one new bike in four years...??? I don't know of course, just a correlation of information and observations. It is a sad thought , for those of us who do ride two wheeled cruisers and tourers. Ride safe, Smokier __________________ You only get one, so "Make it the best day ever!" 2014 Victory Cross County Tour Blue Fire Gloss (BFG) "Cruella" Brides Ride: 2012 Victory Crossroads in Sunset Red "Ruby" Previous Vulcans: '15 Vaquero, '12 Vaquero, '10 1700 Nomad, '04 1500 Classic, '01 1500 Classic, '88 Vulcan 750 VROC # 10967 \| VBA # 3115
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ballbreaker Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: canada Posts: 487	Hey Eugene: Stage 1 includes Ivan's flash, aftermarket exhaust and air mods in my opinion. I have Ivan's flash , V&H exhaust and just a stock K&N filter change. Lots have said the big air intake kits make a huge difference. My mods make for better drivability for what I need. Others will probably chime in as well. Quite a few options out there. It all comes down to how much you want to spend. These are touring bikes not cruisers. Last edited by ballbreaker; 10-10-2020 at 11:01 AM.
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ballbreaker Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: canada Posts: 487	Could be worse Eugene. It could have an 8 track LOL
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10-09-2020, 04:40 PM	#6
ballbreaker Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: canada Posts: 487	I am driving a 2015 Vaquero which Kawasaki has done basically nothing to, the same as the Voyageur. I was a diehard Nomad owner till it was discontinued in 2014. Hope the Vaquero and Voyageur don't go the same way as the Nomad did. Anything I have wanted to change is aftermarket of which there isn't that much available. By the way Eugene what is a forced engine. Never heard of that term before.
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Eugene Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Moscow, Russia Posts: 71	I meant they should have updated the engine, having given it more power.
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ballbreaker Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: canada Posts: 487	Thanks for the explanation. Since my bike has had all the Ivanizing done to it I find there is adequate power for me considering it is a touring bike with lots of weight. As Redjay says more power causes more costs. I am quite happy with the Stage 1 that has been added. Everyone is different though
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redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,978	I spoke with a Kawasaki dealer a week ago who told me he has had his best year ever in sales, mostly off road vehicles, dirt bikes and quads.
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elguapo Jr. Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 25	My ECU is on the way back from Ivan. I had a few questions and he took the time to answer all of them, nice guy to talk to. I will be adding V&H pipes to my setup down the road. When I do this Ivan indicated that the ECU doesn’t need reprogramming, only if I change the Air Intake. According to him by changing the air intake will add an extra 9 horse power to the bike. To me the juice is not worth the squeeze, spend a few hundred dollars to get that extra horse power. We’re all different and have different opinions and taste, totally respect that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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