Motorcycle wont tip over at slow speeds

**JD Hog** · 03-31-2023, 04:51 PM

This will help new riders or older riders that have a problem keeping the bike upright. Hopefully it will not cause the inexperienced riders to think they can now get into riding heavy cruisers without any training.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/yamaha-...-wont-tip-over

redjay · 03-31-2023, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JD Hog

This will help new riders or older riders that have a problem keeping the bike upright. Hopefully it will not cause the inexperienced riders to think they can now get into riding heavy cruisers without any training.

https://www.foxnews.com/auto/yamaha-...-wont-tip-over

If I remember correctly Honda came up with a similar design a few years ago.

andyvh1959 · 04-19-2023, 11:36 PM

BMW has controls built into the K1600 that keeps the engine just off idle at low speeds manuvering.

BMW already has a test bike that can ride an entire track with no rider aboard at all, at speed, leaning, adjusting the cornering line, etc.

Honda is testing an active counter-steering system on the Gold Wing to actively control the motorcycle when in a turn if the rider lets the bike run wide. It takes over at the steering head and inputs the corrective action to maintain the line through the curve.

Honda also developed a bike that can balance itself upright on its own.

I only see any of this as beneficial IF the rider realizes what the bike is doing and learns the riding skills that goes with it. To me, a rider who depends on these systems, really should not be riding. I'm sorry, but a rider depending on the bike to ride for him is still a crash waiting to happen.

Mechaniac · 05-16-2023, 10:25 AM

I agree with Andy. I do many off road rallies on a tricked out DR650. It's completely manual. I've had two guys with BMW GS's go down hard and seen a few of the techno gizmo bikers push things to the point of a crash no realizing how much danger the bike has been hiding from them. Balancing at slow speeds seems harmless enough but taking the lines needs to be a hands-on approach.

Vernon

andyvh1959 · 06-28-2023, 11:54 PM

Just ABS, its there to help a rider, makes up for lousy braking skills. But ABS is really for bike stability. And a rider should first learn to do whatever is needed to maintain stability, so the ABS can help the rider and not just make up for poor skills.

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andyvh1959 Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Green Bay WI Posts: 768	BMW has controls built into the K1600 that keeps the engine just off idle at low speeds manuvering. BMW already has a test bike that can ride an entire track with no rider aboard at all, at speed, leaning, adjusting the cornering line, etc. Honda is testing an active counter-steering system on the Gold Wing to actively control the motorcycle when in a turn if the rider lets the bike run wide. It takes over at the steering head and inputs the corrective action to maintain the line through the curve. Honda also developed a bike that can balance itself upright on its own. I only see any of this as beneficial IF the rider realizes what the bike is doing and learns the riding skills that goes with it. To me, a rider who depends on these systems, really should not be riding. I'm sorry, but a rider depending on the bike to ride for him is still a crash waiting to happen. __________________ My $1200 Vulcan, to start from.
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andyvh1959 Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Green Bay WI Posts: 768	Just ABS, its there to help a rider, makes up for lousy braking skills. But ABS is really for bike stability. And a rider should first learn to do whatever is needed to maintain stability, so the ABS can help the rider and not just make up for poor skills. __________________ My $1200 Vulcan, to start from. Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-16-2023, 10:25 AM	#4
Mechaniac Member Join Date: May 2022 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 83	I agree with Andy. I do many off road rallies on a tricked out DR650. It's completely manual. I've had two guys with BMW GS's go down hard and seen a few of the techno gizmo bikers push things to the point of a crash no realizing how much danger the bike has been hiding from them. Balancing at slow speeds seems harmless enough but taking the lines needs to be a hands-on approach. Vernon
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