Check CC laws before heading out

[fish]

I like Mark's post. If a person is holding a knife on you what are you going to tell him? Wait a minute I need to get in my saddle bags for my gun and clip ??? If you don't have it accessible what is the purpose of carrying one.

I've gone fishing with the boat and as I pulled into the lot at 3:00 AM there were a couple of suspicious guys hanging in the lot so to avoid a bad situation I just drove through the lot and left. I feel a lot safer out on the water then in the parking lot.

I had a guy walk up on me at the boat ramp again at 3-4 in the morning and I told him that's far enough don't come any closer. Since then I got a permit.

[xncrman]

Thanks for the input, wasn't starting the gun debate, just wondered about bike riding pros & cons. I packed a number of times when camping in National Forest with my young family and out on house boat on Lake Powell where in the wilderness an easy target. But I tend to ride in populated tourist areas or usually high number of other cyclist. Camping at upscale RV camping sites. And since I am not a big burly dude I tend not to hang around the big burly HD biker types. Had some experiences around some hard core when a teenager, so I avoid that type. And I wear no colors so not to invite any response. In business I have friends in full range of bikers and find it easy to talk about riding the country. I have to say that I may reconsider packing a small boot concealed if my wife and I are planning back roads by ourselves, that makes since. My problem will be that if I am packing and I meet up with trouble the trouble will be packing too and probably a hole lot bigger than mine!

[Idaho]

Originally Posted by xncrman

Thanks for the input, wasn't starting the gun debate, just wondered about bike riding pros & cons. I packed a number of times when camping in National Forest with my young family and out on house boat on Lake Powell where in the wilderness an easy target. But I tend to ride in populated tourist areas or usually high number of other cyclist. Camping at upscale RV camping sites. And since I am not a big burly dude I tend not to hang around the big burly HD biker types. Had some experiences around some hard core when a teenager, so I avoid that type. And I wear no colors so not to invite any response. In business I have friends in full range of bikers and find it easy to talk about riding the country. I have to say that I may reconsider packing a small boot concealed if my wife and I are planning back roads by ourselves, that makes since. My problem will be that if I am packing and I meet up with trouble the trouble will be packing too and probably a hole lot bigger than mine!

John, don't worry about it. You asked a question that has no right or wrong answer and everyone feels a little different. Ultimately it comes down to your comfort and skill level with a handgun. You are one who has to decide whether and when you will carry. You need to sort through different scenarios in your head and decide what you would do if you found yourself in one of them.

Some will say, don't bring a gun to a knife fight. Some will say, it is better to have a gun even if it is smaller than one your adversary is packin. Some will, say it is not worth the risk at any cost. You need to just do what makes you comfortable.

We need to realize that when we decide to carry that we are taking on a tremendous responsibility that is not to be taken lightly. The ramifications of even making the decision to draw that weapon could be life changing whether you drop the hammer or not.

Be informed, be trained, be careful.

[audiogooroo]

Originally Posted by Idaho (High Plains Drifter)

John, don't worry about it. You asked a question that has no right or wrong answer and everyone feels a little different. Ultimately it comes down to your comfort and skill level with a handgun. You are one who has to decide whether and when you will carry. You need to sort through different scenarios in your head and decide what you would do if you found yourself in one of them.

Some will say, don't bring a gun to a knife fight. Some will say, it is better to have a gun even if it is smaller than one your adversary is packin. Some will, say it is not worth the risk at any cost. You need to just do what makes you comfortable.

We need to realize that when we decide to carry that we are taking on a tremendous responsibility that is not to be taken lightly. The ramifications of even making the decision to draw that weapon could be life changing whether you drop the hammer or not.

Be informed, be trained, be careful.

Well said Bud. It is a very personal decision and no one can make it for you. I am quite capable of defending myself without a handgun...in most situations...but there are other situations that I choose to be prepared for. Particularly when it comes to protecting my family.
But yes, the decision to carry comes with a lot of responsibility, and in all honesty, I have met some people that should not carry. It's all good, just to what you have determined in your heart to do.

[Top Cat]

Here is an example of a guy who shouldn't even be able to look at a gun much less own one.
Yesterdays paper, guy was IN HIS APARTMENT, practicing his fast draw with A LOADED GUN.
Had a picture of somebody, I forget who against his wall to aim at.
Draws the gun, fires off a round and the round goes through his wall into the next apartment. ::)
Bullet hits neighbors TV set dead center in the screen. No body got hurt.
What a dufus. ???

[Sin City Stan]

Originally Posted by cajun2wheels

When riding by myself or with one or two other riders I carry my Ruger LCP in a front pocket holster.When riding in a larger group I usually don't carry.I can't remember the last time I felt unsafe in the areas I ride.I think my main concern is breaking down in the boondocks by myself.You never know what will show up and consider you an easy mark.

I carry in the same situations. When in the middle of nowhere, which we are quite often I prefer a little more protection than my pocket knife. Being right next to California creates allot of problems though. We have to find a somewhat private place to disarm and put the pistol away before we cross the State line and then again crossing back over.

The clip goes in one saddlebag and everything else goes in a lock-box in the other saddlebag. Did the same thing on the way to the Cortez Rally last year because Colorado has a screwy gun law.

The irony is that in my opinion a situation where I would need a pistol for protection is more likely to occur in Southern California than in Nevada, Arizona or Utah. (Sorry BD)

[MAS Tequila]

Sometimes self defense doesn't involve getting out of a situation, but recognizing signs and avoiding potential problems.

If you can't get to the weapon without getting off the bike, what good is it?

Be careful wit your route choices, and stay away from obviously troubled areas.

Do what makes you comfortable.

Are you planning on drawing attention to yourself? Are you going to give the LEO's any reason to look at you twice? Why would they want to look in your bags? Are you going to ride really fast?

I'm sure I just muddied the water.

MT

[Idaho]

Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

Sometimes self defense doesn't involve getting out of a situation, but recognizing signs and avoiding potential problems.

If you can't get to the weapon without getting off the bike, what good is it?

Be careful wit your route choices, and stay away from obviously troubled areas.

Do what makes you comfortable.

Are you planning on drawing attention to yourself? Are you going to give the LEO's any reason to look at you twice? Why would they want to look in your bags? Are you going to ride really fast?

I'm sure I just muddied the water.

MT

MT that is all great advice. LEO's look for probable cause. Broken tail light, speeding, weaving. You want to avoid detection don't do anything to draw attention to yourself. Simple.

[cajun2wheels]

Good advice Bud.I have to laugh when I hear on the news about someone getting stopped for going 90 mph on the interstate and getting busted for having a trunk full of dope they are transporting.

[nomadtom69]

The instructor in our carry permit class made it pretty clear if you do not have the guts (nerve) to pull the trigger when your life is threaten DO NOT Carry and if you do have to pull your weapon USE IT

[nomadtom69]

as some one said trying to shoot off a cycle is not smart but to carry in case you are broke down you do not know who will pull up Then you would not have all your riding gear on

[xncrman]

Been checking out smaller weapons for the boot, I like that concept. Not sure if I will pack on the ride to Maggie. But I do like the idea when riding back roads not familiar with. Thanks for the comments and advice.

[unwind2]

Originally Posted by Top Cat (TC)

Here is an example of a guy who shouldn't even be able to look at a gun much less own one.
Yesterdays paper, guy was IN HIS APARTMENT, practicing his fast draw with A LOADED GUN.
Had a picture of somebody, I forget who against his wall to aim at.
Draws the gun, fires off a round and the round goes through his wall into the next apartment. ::)
Bullet hits neighbors TV set dead center in the screen. No body got hurt.
What a dufus. ???

Oh boy another good one inthe gene pool.