Debaffle with a BAK

JayJay · 04-21-2015, 08:47 AM

I know this has been beaten to death and I've searched the site for answers but haven't really found any answers. I was wondering if I debaffle my stock pipes with my BAK already installed will the performance be worse? I know the sound won't be much different but this was something I was considering doing.

dshelly · 04-21-2015, 09:04 AM

A BAK won't help much if you can't get the extra air out the exhaust. It won't be any worse just not a whole lot better either.

JayJay · 04-21-2015, 09:28 AM

Thanks that's the answer I'm looking for...I guess I should of mentioned mine is a 08 1600

id-man · 04-21-2015, 11:03 AM

Yes debaffling will make it better not worse with this condition; You will have completed two of the "big three" - intake and exhaust, leaving fuel management to complete the upgrade. Without adding a fuel processor to that injected machine she'll run too lean and overheat. (something like that)

JayJay · 04-21-2015, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by id-man

Yes debaffling will make it better not worse with this condition; You will have completed two of the "big three" - intake and exhaust, leaving fuel management to complete the upgrade. Without adding a fuel processor to that injected machine she'll run too lean and overheat. (something like that)

So basically don't chance it until I get a fuel processor?

nomad ryder · 04-21-2015, 12:13 PM

Make the fuel processor and debaffle one project. You'll be glad you did. I did the triumvirate of mods; intake, processor, debaff and it really woke up the engine on my '04 1500.

JayJay · 04-21-2015, 03:04 PM

Sounds good thanks for your help.

id-man · 04-21-2015, 04:58 PM

If it's a money thing I'd get the processor first because there are less expensive (or even free) ways to open up the intake to release the power. Hell if you want to play take the intake filter off completely and do some power runs - just avoid dust and bugs till you get a proper filter back on. Then again maybe you should forget that suggestion :)

JayJay · 04-21-2015, 05:36 PM

I think I'll just play it safe and save some $ for some aftermarket pipes.

redjay · 04-21-2015, 06:34 PM

Unless you like lots of noise debaffling the stock mufflers will add a nice rumble.
It was just the sound I was looking for. Saving the hundreds of bucks on an aftermarket exhaust was a bonus.

If you want more noise go directly to an aftermarket exhaust.

Peg · 04-22-2015, 02:14 AM

I didn't like the debaffle on my Nomad... It created a "fart in a bottle" rattle in a tin can echo I wasn't fond of, so I had some short pieces of straight pipe welded back in there - which gave a slightly deeper more authoritative sound I was looking for.

But that slight exhaust modification, with a Dobeck fuel processor and a K&N filter in the OEM dog bowl - gave me a lot better fuel consumption figures. And being able to use lower grade fuel saved me even more in running costs.

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JayJay Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 145	Debaffle with a BAK I know this has been beaten to death and I've searched the site for answers but haven't really found any answers. I was wondering if I debaffle my stock pipes with my BAK already installed will the performance be worse? I know the sound won't be much different but this was something I was considering doing. __________________ 08 Vulcan Nomad 1600 Red and Black colour scheme Mustang 2 up seat with back rests Highway pegs Hard bags with rear trunk Accent LED'S Baron Air Cleaner Sony MP3 Player Infinity6x9 2004 Vulcan 2000 (sold) Login or Register to Remove Ads
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04-21-2015, 09:04 AM	#2
dshelly Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgrade, MT Posts: 2,824	A BAK won't help much if you can't get the extra air out the exhaust. It won't be any worse just not a whole lot better either. __________________ Dave "(dshelly)" Shellenberger 2014 Harley Ultra Classic 2007 1600 Nomad (Black) Shellenberger Machine Belgrade, MT Various Bagger Member (Harley Chapter) VBA # 2395
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04-21-2015, 09:28 AM	#3
JayJay Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 145	Thanks that's the answer I'm looking for...I guess I should of mentioned mine is a 08 1600 __________________ 08 Vulcan Nomad 1600 Red and Black colour scheme Mustang 2 up seat with back rests Highway pegs Hard bags with rear trunk Accent LED'S Baron Air Cleaner Sony MP3 Player Infinity6x9 2004 Vulcan 2000 (sold)
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04-21-2015, 11:03 AM	#4
id-man Advanced Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Cape Cod Massachusetts Posts: 822	Yes debaffling will make it better not worse with this condition; You will have completed two of the "big three" - intake and exhaust, leaving fuel management to complete the upgrade. Without adding a fuel processor to that injected machine she'll run too lean and overheat. (something like that) __________________ 2004 Nomad 1500FI - weeeeeeeeee!
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04-21-2015, 03:04 PM	#7
JayJay Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 145	Sounds good thanks for your help. __________________ 08 Vulcan Nomad 1600 Red and Black colour scheme Mustang 2 up seat with back rests Highway pegs Hard bags with rear trunk Accent LED'S Baron Air Cleaner Sony MP3 Player Infinity6x9 2004 Vulcan 2000 (sold)
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04-21-2015, 12:13 PM	#6
nomad ryder Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 274	Make the fuel processor and debaffle one project. You'll be glad you did. I did the triumvirate of mods; intake, processor, debaff and it really woke up the engine on my '04 1500.
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04-21-2015, 04:58 PM	#8
id-man Advanced Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Cape Cod Massachusetts Posts: 822	If it's a money thing I'd get the processor first because there are less expensive (or even free) ways to open up the intake to release the power. Hell if you want to play take the intake filter off completely and do some power runs - just avoid dust and bugs till you get a proper filter back on. Then again maybe you should forget that suggestion :) __________________ 2004 Nomad 1500FI - weeeeeeeeee!
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04-21-2015, 05:36 PM	#9
JayJay Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 145	I think I'll just play it safe and save some $ for some aftermarket pipes. __________________ 08 Vulcan Nomad 1600 Red and Black colour scheme Mustang 2 up seat with back rests Highway pegs Hard bags with rear trunk Accent LED'S Baron Air Cleaner Sony MP3 Player Infinity6x9 2004 Vulcan 2000 (sold)
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04-21-2015, 06:34 PM	#10
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,978	Unless you like lots of noise debaffling the stock mufflers will add a nice rumble. It was just the sound I was looking for. Saving the hundreds of bucks on an aftermarket exhaust was a bonus. If you want more noise go directly to an aftermarket exhaust.
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04-22-2015, 02:14 AM	#11
Peg Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: West Coast, North Island, New Zealand Posts: 1,375	I didn't like the debaffle on my Nomad... It created a "fart in a bottle" rattle in a tin can echo I wasn't fond of, so I had some short pieces of straight pipe welded back in there - which gave a slightly deeper more authoritative sound I was looking for. But that slight exhaust modification, with a Dobeck fuel processor and a K&N filter in the OEM dog bowl - gave me a lot better fuel consumption figures. And being able to use lower grade fuel saved me even more in running costs. __________________ Nothing screams poor workmanship like wrinkles in the duct tape '02 1500 blonde Nomad (Sold) '97 800 burgundy Classic (Sold)
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