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03-23-2016, 09:06 PM | #166 |
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Indeed I did! I've been ridin' and smilin' for 2 days here in sunny Florida.
I'm riding a 2009 Voyager with stock airbox and filter, with a stock 2011 Vaquero engine, fuel injection and exhaust. 322,000 miles on the bike and 82,000 miles on the engine. I also have the dshelly quick-turn throttle. After installing the Ivan ECU the engine now idles at 2000 rpm when cold but settles down to 950 when the engine warms up. The fast idle isn't real constant, sorta hunts and surges but the warm idle is as smooth as a kitten purring. The improved throttle response and extra torque is very noticeable, even with my stock setup. The engine runs better, sounds better and pulls harder. With stock mufflers the decel popping was barely detectable but that is now completely gone too. My temp needle previously always sat at or above the center mark on the gauge, now it is consistently less than center while riding even in low 80s today. The needle does still rise as I slow down or stop for traffic but quickly drops when moving again. When I installed the ECU I had 89 octane fuel in the tank, and the engine did ping quite a bit while accelerating, and it never pinged before this. Today i filled with 91 octane Shell and we rode 2-up, 50-60 mph along country roads with lots of stopping for eats and chats. There was no pinging at all with 91 fuel. Prior to this mod, my mileage indicator always hovered around 46 mpgUSA but when calculating actual mileage it worked out to 43 mpg. My fuel light usually came on at 180 miles. These are likely higher numbers than most others are seeing with stock intake and exhaust but I'm an old guy and ride sorta gentle most of the time, and my bike is getting nicely broken in and loosened up. After installing Ivan's ECU my indicator now reads 49.x and I calculated the last 2 tankfulls at 45 and 46 actual mpg. My fuel light now comes on at 215 miles. I am quite happy with the extra range but the cost of premium fuel more than offsets the the improved mpg, so there will be no cost saving for me. There is no improvement in the cruise control, mine still shuts off and auto resumes as it did before, but Ivan made no claims that it was fixed. Overall, I am very happy with the improved drive-ability, extra power, cooler temps, smoother running and improved mpg. Not complaining but I'd be happier with the stock 1250 rpm cold idle, this 2000 rpm requires me to slip the clutch or drag the brakes in order to keep my speed below 10 mph while exiting the RV resort we live in for the winter. Not sure what to think about the requirement for premium fuel, I've spent the last 4 summers in northern Canada (Labrador, NWT, Yukon) and Alaska and premium is few and far between up there. I'll need to carry octane boost or have a stock ECU to install when I get there.
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03-23-2016, 10:14 PM | #167 | |
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03-24-2016, 12:17 AM | #168 | |
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03-24-2016, 09:18 AM | #169 |
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I sent my ECU to Ivan on Monday. He received it yesterday, flashed it, and it should be back to me tomorrow. I will get out for a ride the first chance I get and let you all know the results. No reason to expect it won't be the same as others who have had it done have reported.
ETA: I asked Ivan if I would need to leave my Cobra Powerpro on. He said to unplug it and ride for a couple of weeks, then plug it back in and see what it does. He said it shouldn't make much of a difference with the mods that I have (listed in my Sig). Has anyone who has had their ECU done experimented with this?
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03-24-2016, 10:11 AM | #170 |
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My understanding is Ivan found the stock grip-to-throttle movement to not be linear, meaning 70% grip twist may or may not result in 70% throttle opening. He has made it linear, you get the throttle opening you ask for regardless of temperature, gear, etc.
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03-24-2016, 10:51 AM | #171 |
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Just to jump in here....are we talking about Ray's throttle mod? From my understanding, that mod is really no longer required now due to Ivan's mod. If you already have it on your bike, leave it on, but if you don't, no need for it.
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03-24-2016, 12:28 PM | #172 |
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I already had mine on and it worked out well with both.
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03-24-2016, 12:31 PM | #173 |
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Shortfuse223....I have a powerpro auto tuner sitting in my cabinet in the shop on a shelf. I have not run any kind of tuner since Ivan re-flashed my ecu and the bike runs great. I would only hook it back up if another member ran their bike with re-flashed ecu and the powerpro and reporting that it worked well. In the meantime, no need for it.
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03-24-2016, 02:31 PM | #174 |
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I believe u are correct
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Roger that. Thank you!
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03-24-2016, 04:56 PM | #176 |
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Seems like a lot of good reviews, making it sound kind of irresistible. Time to jump in, I've always been a sucker for a well tuned engine. Ivan you had me at, no more popping and banging. Where did I put my bubble wrap? Cheers
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03-24-2016, 06:06 PM | #177 |
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The ECU re-flash (or add-on tuner) is unrelated to the throttle mod. The reflash or tuner causes the engine to produce more power, the throttle mod makes you think you have more power. Both work well on their own and they work well together. If you were wanting a throttle mod last month, don't let the news about a reflash prevent you from buying it this month.
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03-25-2016, 02:05 AM | #178 |
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Mailed out my ECU monday morning, had it back Thursday afternoon!!! Hopefully I will have a chance to test drive friday afternoon. Big thanks to Ivan
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03-25-2016, 11:03 AM | #180 |
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Back to the fast idle thing....I always let my motor warm up well regardless because with that semi-dry sump lube system it takes longer for the engine oil to circulate through the entire system when stone cold so by the time that has taken place, the idle settles down and you are off to the races. This is really important on cold starts especially if you want your engine to last.
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