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05-19-2010, 06:22 PM | #182 |
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How many miles Dan??????
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05-19-2010, 07:29 PM | #184 |
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Thanks Dan, I can't thank you enough for putting all the effort in.
From reading through the real world tests you are supplying I would be looking for the 175 too and that was the reason for my question. I am not at all worried about working it at slower speeds because I think I am used to the mechanics of the Nomad. My primary concern is in the rock and roll turns where you need to roll on power in that banked corner. I have already ground off my boards, I was hoping to avoid grinding off my piggy bank of chances.
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05-19-2010, 07:52 PM | #185 |
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One thing to remember about a car tire on a car versus a car tire on a motorcycle is that the car usually has a slight negative camber. When doing straight ahead running, the tire typically wears off the inside half of the tire more than the outer half, even on the rear with no toe-in. That's one reason for rotating your tires every so often, to equalize the wear. The slight negative camber allows the outside tire to use its entire width in a curve as the car and suspension rolls to the outside, the camber actually goes to zero. On a motorcycle there is no camber. This isn't all bad. On a car, you actually don't get maximum braking possible from the tires because of the camber. On the motorcycle you will. On the other hand, on a car you can maximize the g-force available from the tire while on a motorcycle you can't.
At this point I'm not convinced car tires are the way to go. I don't see many motorcycle Grand Prix road racers running car tires. That doesn't mean car tires aren't a good choice for cruisers driven the way most of us drive, I'm just not convinced yet. Login or Register to Remove Ads |
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05-19-2010, 08:04 PM | #186 |
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Dan I had a few minor issues till 500 miles. Usually slowing down rapidly, but what ever that was it went away after 500. I li8ke all the testing you are doing, but feel it is too soon, unless comparing again was YOUR idea anyway.
The one thing i can assure you of is that when you hit 7,000 you won't need a new tire at that time. You may be more worn than I am, since you riding style is a lot different than my laid back ideas on watching mountians slide by, but you won't need a new tire at that point
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I'm sure you don't care if anyone believes you. You didn't even bother to read the link in the article you referenced. It states that increasing contact patch area doesn't increase friction since the same number of ridges come into contact (doubling the area results in less force applied for each delta in area so fewer ridges per unit area make contact). This is true for a material that doesn't deform, like the steel pieces he uses in his example. That isn't necessarily true for a deformable material like rubber. Quote:
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Hey guys, this is starting to sound like watching a couple fighting in a restaurant.
I'm sure that you both have good useful information, but getting that information out to the rest of us isn't working so well. If you would either both agree to disagree, or keep going at each other in private messages till one of you concedes, that might work out better for the rest of us. If you guys interacted with each other in private messages, but still talked to the rest of us as a group of fellow riders then we'd get more out of it. |
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05-19-2010, 10:33 PM | #189 |
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Ok, time to move this thread.
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05-19-2010, 11:29 PM | #190 |
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Thanks, Dan and Trip. I was about to suggest the same thing. KawaNow is about comraderie and encouragement to our fellow KawaNow members (i.e. Nomad riders). As many have said, KawaNow is a great group because of this attitude, and this board has shown this comraderie again and again. It is not the place for a "I know more than you" argument.
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Wow..I go away to work for a week, come back home and we have 6 more pages on this topic. Cool..looks like we all have an opinion and are willing to speak up. I too agree to keep buying tires for my bike and they will be the good ones that work best because the black bikes are the fastest of all..Bdog
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Take the Karma, move the thread..........after a while no more mad or frowny icons. :(" title="" border="0"/> :( All we''l have is happy :)
I don't even think Blowndodge has posted on this thread so we kain't blame him. 200 miles Dan ??? Please be careful, that mold coat is SLICK! It is written to take it easy for 500 mile to burn it off. I promise you after 6 to 700 miles your gonna have a different tire and bike. And then get out there and show your butt.
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SWB, moving a motorcycle and Nomad specific topic into the *Off Motorcycle Topics* board? That's a bit of a mixed message? Kind of makes it seem like this board is the debate board, even if it's about Nomads. You might consider moving it back and locking it. Or putting it in the Safety and Riding Techniques board, but down here in the off topic seems strange. For those who are following this thread with interest, I don't get down to this board much, so if I have any followup information after putting more miles on it, I'll start a new thread in the right forum. We'll hopefully keep that one friendly so we don't get booted out :) |
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I agree. Let's keep this topic alive without the "ego" factor. Hopefully it (the c/t impression) won't continue to live here in the basement of boards.
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Dan..I think the "cult" removed it!!! ..Bdog
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