Fuel pump failure, stranded - Page 2

**coacha** · 05-26-2011, 09:23 AM

I can field dress my '99 pretty quick, I've had a lot of practice :)

**ringadingh** · 05-26-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachA

Ring, do you think it will work on a '99? I may have to get one to haul around just in case.

You would have to see if they look the same. Im guessing it won't work because most carburated motors use a pump with much lower pressure than an FI system.

wiz · 05-26-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CoachA

I can field dress my '99 pretty quick, I've had a lot of practice :)

Of all of the bikes I have had, I am most comfortable working on my Nomad. It is easy and cheap to keep running well and that is a great feature for us non-lottery winners. The more you do, the easier it gets.

macmac · 05-26-2011, 02:06 PM

Always year make and model should come first when your stuck. A 99' pump is around 3 to 5 psi so far as I know. Nothing like the 1500's or the 1600's.

Hope he's ok......

wiz · 05-26-2011, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ringadingh

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoachA

Ring, do you think it will work on a '99? I may have to get one to haul around just in case.

You would have to see if they look the same. Im guessing it won't work because most carburated motors use a pump with much lower pressure than an FI system.

My carb bikes used gravity. If that cuts out we are in real trouble.

**coacha** · 05-26-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ringadingh

You would have to see if they look the same. Im guessing it won't work because most carburated motors use a pump with much lower pressure than an FI system.

My carb bikes used gravity. If that cuts out we are in real trouble.

Yeah, we'd all need space suits and stuff

**ringadingh** · 05-26-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiz

[My carb bikes used gravity. If that cuts out we are in real trouble.

Most bikes do but the Nomads use a pump for some reason.

macmac · 05-26-2011, 06:10 PM

Redjay if you pop the filler cap does the noise lessen? Does the cap Hiss too? I mean when you pop it open.

That buzzing some guys fix, I don't care about, and I sort of like hearing the buzz of the vent valve, which says Hi it's me and I am working.

**minst7877** · 05-28-2011, 09:38 PM

The 99's fuel pump is not internal to the tank. It is mounted to the frame above the engine under the tank. If you pull the tank follow the gas line over to it. Look in this link page 1-34

http://www.kawanow.org/pdf/1500Vulca...8-01Manual.pdf

DC

**coacha** · 05-28-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by minst7877

The 99's fuel pump is not internal to the tank. It is mounted to the frame above the engine under the tank. If you pull the tank follow the gas line over to it. Look in this link page 1-34

http://www.kawanow.org/pdf/1500Vulca...8-01Manual.pdf

DC

Thanks for the information DC. I have the manual too and have worked around the pump a little in the past when installing my auxiliary fuel cell. Just seeing if there was an alternative fuel pump that would fit.

roads1 · 06-02-2011, 11:58 PM

The bike had been running great. Getting on the Interstate, shifting into 3rd and the engine died. The lights on the oil pressure, fuel injection lights up. The speedo does NOT sweep and the fuel pump does not pressurize. There had been no extra noise or other problems.
Fuses are good, and relay checks out.
Any other suggestions?

macmac · 06-03-2011, 08:28 AM

Does anything work? Sounds like the 30 amp main fuse blew. It's under the seat mounted in a holder on the battery hold down. There may be a cover/cap on the fuse holder, if not look for a blue plastic fuse.

roads1 · 06-05-2011, 11:57 PM

Everything works except the fuel pump. All lights guages and the bike will crank. But with no fuel it does not start or fire. I replaced the main fuse just in case. But no luck. Also replaced the fuel pump fuse. I think it is the fuel pump relay. Round relay mounted under the main fuse panel on the frame. Dealer is ordering the part. Have to trace some more wiring though. Don't want to start replacing things without knowing if it will fix the problem.

**ringadingh** · 06-06-2011, 07:20 AM

What makes you think its the relay and not the fuel pump itself?

roads1 · 06-06-2011, 02:49 PM

There is no output voltage from the relay. There was no fuel pump problems before, no dragging, whining. I know that electrical things sometimes just stop working but don't fuel pump normally give an indication of impending doom?

05-26-2011, 09:23 AM	#16
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05-26-2011, 02:06 PM	#19
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Fuel pump failure, stranded Always year make and model should come first when your stuck. A 99' pump is around 3 to 5 psi so far as I know. Nothing like the 1500's or the 1600's. Hope he's ok...... __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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05-26-2011, 06:10 PM	#23
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Fuel pump failure, stranded Redjay if you pop the filler cap does the noise lessen? Does the cap Hiss too? I mean when you pop it open. That buzzing some guys fix, I don't care about, and I sort of like hearing the buzz of the vent valve, which says Hi it's me and I am working. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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05-28-2011, 09:38 PM	#24
minst7877 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,286	Fuel pump failure, stranded The 99's fuel pump is not internal to the tank. It is mounted to the frame above the engine under the tank. If you pull the tank follow the gas line over to it. Look in this link page 1-34 http://www.kawanow.org/pdf/1500Vulca...8-01Manual.pdf DC __________________ Me and my 99 G1 Nomad on US 2 by the Lake Michigan Shoreline. Judge's Oil Gear failed and engine overhauled @ 35563 miles VBA/KawaNOW #01625 Christian Motorcyclists Assoc. Wheels Of Destiny Chapter #735 PA Wilds NE/Eastern Canada regional rally July 2012 Eureka Springs National 2015 Rolling Thunder Washington DC 2016 NE US / E Canada Rally - Mont Tremblant, QC 2016 VRA Eastern National at Maggie Valley 2017 99 Nomad G1 gone but never forgotten traded 4/8/17 for a 2017 Indian Roadmaster
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06-02-2011, 11:58 PM	#26
roads1 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 76	Fuel pump failure, stranded The bike had been running great. Getting on the Interstate, shifting into 3rd and the engine died. The lights on the oil pressure, fuel injection lights up. The speedo does NOT sweep and the fuel pump does not pressurize. There had been no extra noise or other problems. Fuses are good, and relay checks out. Any other suggestions?
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06-03-2011, 08:28 AM	#27
macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Fuel pump failure, stranded Does anything work? Sounds like the 30 amp main fuse blew. It's under the seat mounted in a holder on the battery hold down. There may be a cover/cap on the fuse holder, if not look for a blue plastic fuse. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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06-05-2011, 11:57 PM	#28
roads1 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 76	Fuel pump failure, stranded Everything works except the fuel pump. All lights guages and the bike will crank. But with no fuel it does not start or fire. I replaced the main fuse just in case. But no luck. Also replaced the fuel pump fuse. I think it is the fuel pump relay. Round relay mounted under the main fuse panel on the frame. Dealer is ordering the part. Have to trace some more wiring though. Don't want to start replacing things without knowing if it will fix the problem.
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06-06-2011, 07:20 AM	#29
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Fuel pump failure, stranded What makes you think its the relay and not the fuel pump itself? __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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06-06-2011, 02:49 PM	#30
roads1 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 76	Fuel pump failure, stranded There is no output voltage from the relay. There was no fuel pump problems before, no dragging, whining. I know that electrical things sometimes just stop working but don't fuel pump normally give an indication of impending doom?
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