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No, he means some of the Jog's have failed.
Usually the reason a JOG fails lies in the installation, they HAVE to be installed just as instructed. There have been installation mistakes resulting in failure. MT Quote:
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Nope, capitalism at its best.
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Exploitation of the vulnerable is what it is, make a profit by all mean's, but ripping people off is just plain ugly
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"RED" has the a NEW SOG
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Today we used a MIG welder to spot tack the OEM Steel Oil Pump Gear -SOG- on the removed the (POG GEAR) shaft. Then we built up a small weld. Once home from the shop I used my Dremel with a small sanding wheel to bring the weld flush with the gear. Before installing the Clutch Basket I check clearances on the back side where the spring holder tabs are. Using a small metal straight edge is how I checked this along with the weld on the SOG. Cleaned up everything before installing, gasket surfaces, etc.... and its done. I took RED out for a test ride and everything is good. I , We, and others have done this exact method with 0 failure rates. Putting 10's of thousands miles on the 99's. Cost of the OEM gear less than $50 I found this method from a former Bagger up East. Its beyond me why in the world a engineer would put a plastic gear in the Nomad. I have added pictures 1. Shows the OEM steel oil pump gear which we removed the shaft. 2. Shows the OEM plastic gear before removing -you can see the teeth missing. 3. Shows me ready to slide gear on shaft where the old P.O.G. was. 4. Shows the Gear on shaft before using a wire feed mig welder. **** YOU MUST USE A TELESCOPIC MAGNET TO PULL THE SHAFT OUT BEFORE WELDING---the welder tack welded while I used the magnet.***** then he finished the weld. The only way I figured out how to do this is from reading many articles from "Gadget's Fix it Page" + 2 different shop manuals, surfing the internet for how to on 99 Nomads, going to parts sites and studing drawings etc.... I have no knowledge of motorcycle repairs. Like everyone before me says Take Your Time Have all your parts on hand Watch out and protect that opening below the oil pump gear with a rag. ***JUST A NOTE HERE behind the oil pump gear is a washer plan on having a new one on hand as when removing the plastic gear using a dremel tool with a point type cutter damage will occur.********* The first time I replaced my Clutch Plates / I used a Mean Streak Spring just to check also if I had a POG. This time I went ahead also when installing the Steel Oil Pump Gear I went ahead and did the spring again. Again there is no way I could have figured "Right Side Cover Removal " "Clutch Plates and Springs Install" along with the all Famous Kawasaki Plastic Oil Pump Gear Removal" without everyone's help!
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Good for you mate$50 as apposed to $310,if Kawasaki can do it for that, then the other bloke is taking the piss, and everyone should let him know by not buying his part.
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After reading rolfe's post you must feel like you've just been mugged.
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How do you remove the shaft without splitting the cases?
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"reds" new steel oil pump gear photos
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we get mugged in Norway all the time..by the government..are used to it
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Duh. I get it. I thought you meant removed the shaft from the bike, not the new gear.
I considered doing this after reading about it, but went with the JOG instead. Read more good reports than bad, so went that route. Put 16,000 miles on it so far. Hopefully it holds. Looks like this should work out fine for you. If I went this way I was thinking about TIG welding it rather than MIG figuring it would be a more controlled heat and better penetration. Don't reckon it would make a whole lot of difference though. Congrats on your fix.
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Mig Wire Feed Weld
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No use the Wire Feed Mig Welder 1. Wet Cotton Shop Towel and place in Oil Drain Port Hole under S.O.G. 2. Once Gear is Tacked (remember to use Telescopic Pencil Magnet) to pull out shaft before tacking weld. 3. Let cool the place another part of a Wet Cotton Shop Towel as best as possible behind S.O.G. 4. Continue the Weld. ****Since the OEM Shaft has two slices in it there is no way the S.O.G. is coming off.**** I am not even worried about S.O.G. has compared to the cheap plastic OEM Gear that was factory installed. Its not Rocket Science and its a No Brainer. 0 % Failure rates I had all my parts on hand since 2011 just waiting for the Plastic Oil Pump Gear P.O.G. to fail. It did at 26,500 miles |
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