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[usranger74]

Originally Posted by ndbigfish

All this got me thinking, so after I got home I wanted to try an experiment. The temperatures have been close to 100°F nearly everyday here and my bike will ping even with the fuel processor when riding 2-up and climbing the local hills in the heat. So I bought a quart of 108 octane booster and mixed it in the fuel at a rate 1/2 ounce per gallon.

I stopped at the auto parts store today to look at the 108 Octane Booster. 32 oz can can treat 32 gals of gas. Soooo, that is 1oz per gal. I am going to try this when I can not find Premium.

[cocheese72]

Originally Posted by macmac

1600 Spector 2x9 inch filter, V&H baggers, Solder on TFI. 42/44 I don't exceed 70 mph on the un-corrected speedo much, and ride 2 up 98%.

I drop a little if the engine guard covers are off, and they will be coming off later today since it's like the heater is turned on now.

Dunlop 251 Radial ft, Dunlop SP 5000 ct rear. All full syn oils.

If I swapped for a mc reat tire I might be at 44/46.

89 octane and never looked back, 0 ping.

20,000 miles on same plugs.

I thought you were running 87.

[ndbigfish]

Originally Posted by usranger74

I stopped at the auto parts store today to look at the 108 Octane Booster. 32 oz can can treat 32 gals of gas. Soooo, that is 1oz per gal. I am going to try this when I can not find Premium.

I'm going to try and cut the dosage rate back to a 1/4 oz per gallon when using 87 octane and see how it performs. I may have to increase this dosage rate to 1/2 oz per gallon when I'm riding 2up and pulling alot of hills in the heat.

[usranger74]

http://bluemagicusa.com/index.php/bl...e_boost_16_oz/

I was trying to find info on 108 and discovered it is 95% kerosene with some additives.

http://bluemagicusa.com/bm_files/msd...ost%20MSDS.pdf

[ndbigfish]

I'm using this same brand of booster and I can't explain what happened today. I blended up a little cocktail of additives in my fuel tank; using MMO and octane booster in the same tank. I administered octane booster at 1/2 oz per gallon of fuel and MMO at the recommended rate and rode to work today. I maintained freeway speeds of approximately 70 MPH to and from work, as well as some stop and go city driving coming home. Temperature was 74°F going to work and 98°F coming home. Very little wind in the morning and a slight head wind (<10 mph) in the afternoon. I traveled 55.2 miles and used .965 gallons of 87 octane fuel for approximately 57 MPG. I would normally expect 36 to 38 MPG under the same conditions. I thought the math was off and I had it double checked by someone else. Maybe the pump was broken and metered the fuel incorrectly. I will continue to experiment with dosing rates to see if there is sweet spot.

[usranger74]

[quote author=ndbigfish board=nomad thread=24303 post=371395 time=1310005842]I'm using this same brand of booster and I can't explain what happened today. I blended up a little cocktail of additives in my fuel tank; using MMO and octane booster in the same tank. I administered octane booster at 1/2 oz per gallon of fuel and MMO at the recommended rate and rode to work today. I maintained freeway speeds of approximately 70 MPH to and from work, as well as some stop and go city driving coming home. Temperature was 74°F going to work and 98°F coming home. Very little wind in the morning and a slight head wind (<10 mph) in the afternoon. I traveled 55.2 miles and used .965 gallons of 87 octane fuel for approximately 57 MPG. I would normally expect 36 to 38 MPG under the same conditions. I thought the math was off and I had it double checked by someone else. Maybe the pump was broken and metered the fuel incorrectly. I will continue to experiment with dosing rates to see if there is sweet spot. [/quote

Well, you have peak my interest. I am also wondering if stead use of those (or any) additives can harm the engine.

[macmac]

Originally Posted by usranger74

Mac - are you saying you get better MPG with engine guard covers on?

It would appear so. I can't prove it, but it does appear that the desert dawgs I have, fair out the bike, and I ride in a semi-heated bubble. July 4th they came off, since I was getting cooked, but as soon as it either cools or rain happens they will go right back on.

I haven't tracked my MPG's in a while but when I was doing that they made a noticable difference.

[macmac]

Originally Posted by cocheese72

I thought you were running 87.

Bad fingers! I type for crap, and I did MEAN 87, not 89. Thanks.

I run 87 only.

[macmac]

Originally Posted by ndbigfish

I'm using this same brand of booster and I can't explain what happened today. I blended up a little cocktail of additives in my fuel tank; using MMO and octane booster in the same tank. I administered octane booster at 1/2 oz per gallon of fuel and MMO at the recommended rate and rode to work today. I maintained freeway speeds of approximately 70 MPH to and from work, as well as some stop and go city driving coming home. Temperature was 74°F going to work and 98°F coming home. Very little wind in the morning and a slight head wind (<10 mph) in the afternoon. I traveled 55.2 miles and used .965 gallons of 87 octane fuel for approximately 57 MPG. I would normally expect 36 to 38 MPG under the same conditions. I thought the math was off and I had it double checked by someone else. Maybe the pump was broken and metered the fuel incorrectly. I will continue to experiment with dosing rates to see if there is sweet spot.

I'ld like to see a whole tank ridden off in a single ride, one start and ride till you hit no less than 180 miles.

The reason I picked 180 miles is that my yellow light comes on like clock work at 178 miles.

So far just once on a ride like that, the light waited to 198 miles.

That particular time I was leading TC and his Bride around my Mountains

IMO TC is a fuel wizard and he jinxed my fuel in a really good way....

[Top Cat]

"fuel wizard" That is a polite way of saying, TC rides like the Old Fart he is.

[macmac]

Hell No you out rode me in NY State.. I am used to around here, know where the cops and Moose hang out, but in NY I wanted to see the place. And I screwed that up to with ash in my eye at 0 MPH.

I get almost no group ride expericence either, since not many folks will ride with me.

[ndbigfish]

Things are more normal again. I rode the same route yesterday, at similar speeds and conditions. I bought fuel at the same place, but from a different pump. My mileage was a more what I would anticipate; at 40 MPG. I knew there was something wrong with that pump! Good thing is that I continue not to have pinging or performance problems as I continue to reduce the amount of octane booster that I am using.

[ndbigfish]

The little mix of MMO and octane booster was good for 47 MPG today. It was 94°F, light winds, 2-up and speed was under 65 mph.

[anchornomad]

1972 Edmonton, Alberta, 36 cents a gallon (yes imperial gallon) Thirty Six bucks for a hundred gallon tidy tank on the back of the 69 Ford truck with a 390? that blew/gulped the fuel through the carb at an incredible rate. You needed the extra tank in the back to go anywhere but it was affordable? Fuel at Costco yesterday was $107.9 in Edmonton, Alta. Have a great day. Den

[Top Cat]

Originally Posted by AnchorNomad

1972 Edmonton, Alberta, 36 cents a gallon (yes imperial gallon) Thirty Six bucks for a hundred gallon tidy tank on the back of the 69 Ford truck with a 390? that blew/gulped the fuel through the carb at an incredible rate. You needed the extra tank in the back to go anywhere but it was affordable? Fuel at Costco yesterday was $107.9 in Edmonton, Alta. Have a great day. Den

$107.9 for what ??? A gallon.a tank full,a hundred gallon tidy tank ???