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03-16-2016, 11:08 PM | #121 | |
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03-16-2016, 11:13 PM | #122 | |
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the sticker is quite large and easily seen so if u are going in for repairs and get nervous u most likely could take the decal off |
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03-16-2016, 11:44 PM | #123 |
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I wider if he is considering this for the 1500's and1600s or not enough interests? I've always hated the thought of another electronic device piggy backed on my ecm. But it's where I'm at, no problems so far but that is one less component to fail.
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03-17-2016, 10:26 AM | #124 |
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If ever there was a bike that needed this it is the 1600. Dunno how big that market is anymore though.
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03-17-2016, 11:09 AM | #125 |
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When I had my Vulcan 1500 Meanstreak, I simply removed the entire emissions system and plugged off the hole that goes into the throttle body from the smog system. Then I added the Baron's intake and placed block off plates in place of the old reed valves at the heads, a simple procedure. With Cobra slash down pipes, and no fuel processor, and a slightly cooler plug set, (DPR8) the bike ran like a raped ape, cooler, zero backfires, and much more power. This is how you get the 15/1600s to run. They come with pretty fat injector holes from the factory so adding a fuel processor only makes them run too rich. It took about a year of experimenting to get this right. For any of you that have these motors, doing this will improve the way your bike runs, believe me.
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03-17-2016, 03:24 PM | #126 |
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Respectfully disagree. With my Cobra full exhaust and good old Rotella (not sure how much diff that made) I thought my 1600 Nomad had plenty of power. My issues with my Nad had more to do with it's handling and top heavyness.
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03-17-2016, 03:42 PM | #127 |
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The problem with the 1600 is that it was a basic bike and riders were expecting more. ABS, cruise control, more power, etc. Nothing wrong with the 1600 Nomad per se, I owned one, but my expectations changed (as did a lot of other founding members here) and Kawasaki went in a different direction.
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03-17-2016, 04:06 PM | #128 |
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And I agree with Erilflyn... My 1500's issues were all fuel related, and easily sorted with a tuner. But the tuner never quite felt like it did enough for the 1700. The problems run a lot deeper.
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03-17-2016, 11:13 PM | #129 |
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I just sat and read this entire thread! I first saw the posts on FB!
In no small part to Luverne stating the dealers can't tell if it's been flashed I am WAY interested!! This is on my list now!! Mine runs way too rich and has too much decel popping! |
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03-18-2016, 11:01 AM | #130 |
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Eril I was mainly covering the topic of getting the 15s and 16's running better by mostly just disconnecting all the smog equipment and getting good breathing and exhaust going, and getting rid of the reed valves and bolting on back off plates... and it did make a bunch of difference on my 1500. When I was on the Meanstreak forum, many other owners tried this and were all very happy. The ECU and injector arrangements on those bikes are very different than on the 1700s.
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03-18-2016, 11:18 AM | #131 |
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So, yesterday, I was finally able to get the big Vaquero out for a full open throttle run with the IVAN ECU flash done and in the bike.
The outside temps were in the low 50s and my motor never actually reached full operating temperature maybe up to around 170 but had to go out and run it. One of the first things I observed was that the engine runs cooler for sure, so looking forward to hotter temps as summer comes around. I went through much less fuel on the 80 mile run than expected, even after getting ham fisted on the throttle a few times. In fifth and sixth gear with the throttle wide open it picks up faster and darts to 100MPH quicker and cleaner. You will notice the difference in added torque when you go to do a 5th gear passing on the open highway...I easily reached an indicated 115 on the Vaquero on a straight stretch at about 3300 ft. above sea level. Throttling is notably more responsive and crisp, and accurate. Right off idle, especially in the lower gears, you have immediate response at the first little twist of the right grip, and I have the Ray's throttle mod on mine, and it all works very well together. Here's what I like best. In the lower gears, at lower speeds, like parking lot and up to 30 or 40 mph in 3rd or 4th gear, you get clean, even, perfect fueling and throttling, steady as your own heart beat with absolutely ZERO backfiring, popping, or excessive fuel loading. The difference is exemplary and left a huge smile on my face. No more hesitation, no more low rpm stumbles, just clean accurate perfect throttling and running. I really loved cruising speed at 60-80 mph in 5th and 6th gears, and only needed to hold the throttle open just a tad bit at those speeds. I tested the cruise control and it worked perfectly with the new settings. All of this with no fuel processor, just plugged in back to stock and with my Thunder Tornado air and Freedom 2-1 pipe. I feel like the motor has picked up more torque, especially off idle, right off the bottom it comes on with immediacy and urgency with little throttle input. The motor totally feels like it should and is now running smoother and stronger , and should I say flawlessly? YES I SHOULD because this is an accurate statement. For anyone that is riding a Vulcan 1700, if you get this done, your problems are over and you will be happier than a pig in slop, go ride, and never look back just look ahead to years of riding nirvana. IVAN is the man. If anyone has any more questions please do not hesitate to ask.
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03-18-2016, 11:43 AM | #132 | |
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03-18-2016, 12:54 PM | #133 |
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Another benefit of doing this is you are not restricted to just Cobra slip ons now. Now you should be able to get the V&H slip ons for older 1700 models that don't have the bunge hole for the 02 Sensor. As the 02 is turned off by Ivan this should be a non issue now unless I'm missing something.
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03-18-2016, 01:43 PM | #134 |
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Like I said, the flash completely eliminates all backfiring, gone, history and your bike will run much cooler too. His (Ivan) flash resets everything in the ECU and if you have an 02 sensor, don't worry just go with what he says. His re-flash is THE way to go get it done, problems solved, permanently. captj3 you will be very happy you did this, no regrets, ever.
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03-20-2016, 03:28 PM | #135 |
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Sorry for the simple question but I think I took off the ECU. You all have said it by the battery in a basket. I took out the whole basket is it the one with three plugs about 1" thick. I slip it out of a rubber mount next to two more bigger plugs.
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