The state of the nation

mick56 · 01-10-2021, 10:59 AM

What do you blokes make of the current situation, regards the Presidency. We British, are not without our problems, regards the EU. But are still a bit confused, as to wtf is going on over there. In my opinion, Trump is a total idiot. But i believe in what he was trying to do. Big business has taken over your country, and indeed, the rest of the "Democratic" world. Now that Zuckerberg/Beezos ect, and others, have finally played their hand. Where does America go from here. You now have private interest's, openly telling you, what you can, and cant say. Fucking unbelievable.

**Top Cat** · 01-10-2021, 04:07 PM

Mick, I voted for Trump as I was sick of politicians and their ideas. Trump is a business man and I liked his ideas. I didn't like his personality but if he could help the country I got past that. He has done some good things for this country while being harassed by the Dems for 4 years.

That being said, Since the election was stolen from him ( yes I think it was stolen by vote manipulation ) he has gone over the edge a bit. That's all he thinks about, not running the country.

Now the Dems want to impeach him under the 25th Amendment. He will be out of office on the 20th any way, why waste more of the taxpayers money. I think the reason is to set a president so the Dems can use it to get Biden out and move on with their plan to make the United States a socialist nation.

ldhthept · 01-10-2021, 04:09 PM

Yep

Monkeyman · 01-10-2021, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Cat

Now the Dems want to impeach him under the 25th Amendment.

Two totally different things.

I'll keep my political opinions to myself as they're not particularly relevant.

redjay · 01-10-2021, 07:14 PM

As a Brit living in Canada my understanding of the American voting system is limited.
I get the feeling there are many U.S historical wounds of the last 250 years that have never fully healed and every 4 years the scab is picked off and the wound festers all over again. Am I way off in my assumption ?

mick56 · 01-10-2021, 07:35 PM

Hey TC

I reckon, any right thinking man, is pissed off with politicians of all denominations. None of the bastards are honest, and none of them have the peoples interest at heart. The whole thing begins, with who can raise the most money to get on TV ffs. At least Trump was prepared to bypass them, and give the rest of us a chance to debate openly. That avenue has now been withdrawn, by those with a different agenda. Makes me wonder who really is in control ?

flavor · 01-10-2021, 08:00 PM

https://www.npr.org/sections/congres...he-capitol-ass

mick56 · 01-10-2021, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by flavor

https://www.npr.org/sections/congres...he-capitol-ass

Fuck me dead mate, the privacy settings on that had my head in a spin. I'll give that a swerve thanks. But that Liberal asshole, has nothing to say, that i want to hear anyway.

**Top Cat** · 01-10-2021, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

Two totally different things.

What two things.

Chuck A. · 01-11-2021, 06:56 AM

I agree with post #2. 4 years of hatred and now an idiot. USA is for sale. But I will go silent as this is a motorcycle forum and not a political news feed.

mick56 · 01-11-2021, 07:10 AM

I thought i posted this in the political section. It seems not. Maybe admin might want to move it over ?

Monkeyman · 01-11-2021, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Top Cat

What two things.

25th Amendment and impeachment. Either will get the job done but the 25th Amendment isn't (generally speaking) permanent and can't keep the POTUS from running again. Impeachment isn't necessarily permanent, either unless the POTUS is convicted.

If a POTUS needs to be removed permanently, impeachment is the way to go.

spby52 · 01-11-2021, 09:29 AM

Politics

Religion

Car tires on motorcycles

And now apparently the $%^&*( Flu

Peoples heads explode

**Top Cat** · 01-11-2021, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

25th Amendment and impeachment. Either will get the job done but the 25th Amendment isn't (generally speaking) permanent and can't keep the POTUS from running again. Impeachment isn't necessarily permanent, either unless the POTUS is convicted.

If a POTUS needs to be removed permanently, impeachment is the way to go.

Got ya, I agree that's how it works

Chuck A. · 01-11-2021, 10:05 PM

In other news, for the first time in 3 years 87 octane gas is back above $2 here. 3 weeks ago it was 174.9, today it is 225.9. Yah, here we go again.

01-10-2021, 10:59 AM	#1
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	The state of the nation What do you blokes make of the current situation, regards the Presidency. We British, are not without our problems, regards the EU. But are still a bit confused, as to wtf is going on over there. In my opinion, Trump is a total idiot. But i believe in what he was trying to do. Big business has taken over your country, and indeed, the rest of the "Democratic" world. Now that Zuckerberg/Beezos ect, and others, have finally played their hand. Where does America go from here. You now have private interest's, openly telling you, what you can, and cant say. Fucking unbelievable. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.

01-10-2021, 07:35 PM	#6
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Hey TC I reckon, any right thinking man, is pissed off with politicians of all denominations. None of the bastards are honest, and none of them have the peoples interest at heart. The whole thing begins, with who can raise the most money to get on TV ffs. At least Trump was prepared to bypass them, and give the rest of us a chance to debate openly. That avenue has now been withdrawn, by those with a different agenda. Makes me wonder who really is in control ? __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.

01-10-2021, 08:00 PM	#7
flavor Sr. Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: RI Posts: 1,351	see video https://www.npr.org/sections/congres...he-capitol-ass

01-11-2021, 06:56 AM	#10
Chuck A. Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Hartselle Alabama Posts: 995	I agree with post #2. 4 years of hatred and now an idiot. USA is for sale. But I will go silent as this is a motorcycle forum and not a political news feed. __________________ Have A Good One, Chuck Patriot Guard Riders Sons Of Liberty Riders Alabama Road Captain 2015 Voyager 2003 1500 NOMAD FI sold 6/19 VBA #2993 RUSSELL DAYLONG SEATS ROCK!! DAMMIT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling "DAMMIT" at the top of your lungs There is no substitute for laminar flow in which a helmet is the primary disturbance. SO MANY ROADS, SO LITTLE TIME.

01-11-2021, 07:10 AM	#11
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	I thought i posted this in the political section. It seems not. Maybe admin might want to move it over ? __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.

01-10-2021, 04:07 PM	#2
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	Mick, I voted for Trump as I was sick of politicians and their ideas. Trump is a business man and I liked his ideas. I didn't like his personality but if he could help the country I got past that. He has done some good things for this country while being harassed by the Dems for 4 years. That being said, Since the election was stolen from him ( yes I think it was stolen by vote manipulation ) he has gone over the edge a bit. That's all he thinks about, not running the country. Now the Dems want to impeach him under the 25th Amendment. He will be out of office on the 20th any way, why waste more of the taxpayers money. I think the reason is to set a president so the Dems can use it to get Biden out and move on with their plan to make the United States a socialist nation. __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]

01-10-2021, 04:09 PM	#3
ldhthept Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 1,040	Yep

01-10-2021, 07:14 PM	#5
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,984	As a Brit living in Canada my understanding of the American voting system is limited. I get the feeling there are many U.S historical wounds of the last 250 years that have never fully healed and every 4 years the scab is picked off and the wound festers all over again. Am I way off in my assumption ?

01-11-2021, 09:29 AM	#13
spby52 Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Saint Petersburg Florida Posts: 96	Can't talk about anymore Politics Religion Car tires on motorcycles And now apparently the $%^&*( Flu Peoples heads explode

01-11-2021, 10:05 PM	#15
Chuck A. Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Hartselle Alabama Posts: 995	In other news, for the first time in 3 years 87 octane gas is back above $2 here. 3 weeks ago it was 174.9, today it is 225.9. Yah, here we go again. __________________ Have A Good One, Chuck Patriot Guard Riders Sons Of Liberty Riders Alabama Road Captain 2015 Voyager 2003 1500 NOMAD FI sold 6/19 VBA #2993 RUSSELL DAYLONG SEATS ROCK!! DAMMIT TOOL: Any handy tool that you grab and throw across the garage while yelling "DAMMIT" at the top of your lungs There is no substitute for laminar flow in which a helmet is the primary disturbance. SO MANY ROADS, SO LITTLE TIME.