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t dewitt · 10-01-2014, 05:30 PM

my son in law called last night, to said when he started his '11 voyager, the engine started knocking, slight reve up , still knocking, shut it down. someone told him the oil pump is bad. he told me the oil light went out after start up. the bike has a little over 11,000 miles. A friend talked him in to switching to Amsoil some months ago. I think the switch is to early, and I have not heard of oil pump problems on 1700s. any thoughts?????

RACNRAY · 10-01-2014, 06:30 PM

How long has it been since the engine ran last time? 11,000 miles is certainly not too soon to run synthetic. The noise will have to be properly diagnosed, starting by using a mechanic's stethoscope, you must find the source of the noise.

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ponch · 10-01-2014, 06:53 PM

It could still be under warranty too. That said, switching to amsoil would not cause that. Not having enough oil in it could.

**cnc** · 10-01-2014, 07:48 PM

If there is sufficient oil and the light does go out after start up then there should be oil pressure. Perhaps it is a lifter.

**ringadingh** · 10-01-2014, 07:57 PM

I doubt the Amsoil is the cause of the problem, if the bike has warranty left he should take it in to the dealer.

redjay · 10-01-2014, 08:48 PM

A hydraulic lifter has bled down maybe ? This usually only happens when the bike has been sat for a few weeks/months. How long has the bike been sat and not started ?

highwayman2011 · 10-02-2014, 01:30 PM

My 2010 makes a lot of racket after sitting a few weeks. Those lifters make a lot of noise. Let it warm up at idle and check the oil level.

tonik · 10-02-2014, 02:06 PM

Not hearing it we are guessing. My guess is sometimes bikes, especially Kaw's, make a crapload of knocking noises on start up...from time to time. I agree with Highwayman, let it warm up at idle a bit and it will go away. If it is toast he isn't going to hurt it much more than it already is and I don't think it is toast.

t dewitt · 10-02-2014, 04:20 PM

Thanks for the input, don't know the bike has sat. The bike was used when bought. I will be in Fl. this weekend and get a better idea what is going on, than I will get back to you all. thanks again. By the way, My 2011 Vaquero turned 38,000 miles this A.M. I've been using Mobil 1 10w40 the last 16,000 mi. Lifter noise on start up has go away. Mileage has gone 41 to 43 miles per gallon. Lov'n IT!!!!!!!!!

Silent Sam · 10-02-2014, 11:49 PM

Push Rod Motor's..maybe with roller cam's...full Synchronous Tranny's.....May I live so long ! (and have the $$$)

dusted · 10-03-2014, 04:58 PM

It could be something a simple as bad fuel. Can't see Amsoil being an issue. Once the break in period is complete any synthetic is good.

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t dewitt Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 4	not good my son in law called last night, to said when he started his '11 voyager, the engine started knocking, slight reve up , still knocking, shut it down. someone told him the oil pump is bad. he told me the oil light went out after start up. the bike has a little over 11,000 miles. A friend talked him in to switching to Amsoil some months ago. I think the switch is to early, and I have not heard of oil pump problems on 1700s. any thoughts????? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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RACNRAY Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SOUTH FLORIDA Posts: 1,210	How long has it been since the engine ran last time? 11,000 miles is certainly not too soon to run synthetic. The noise will have to be properly diagnosed, starting by using a mechanic's stethoscope, you must find the source of the noise. RACNRAY __________________ "TRUE HAPPINESS IS IN THE HEART, NOT IN THE OUTSIDE FIXES" WITH OVER 46 YEARS AS A MOTORCYCLE TECHNICIAN/HI-PO SHOP OWNER I AM A PURVEYOR OF FACT NOT FICTION! "WE LIVE OUR LIVES IN CHAINS NEVER KNOWING WE HAD THE KEY"
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10-01-2014, 07:48 PM	#4
cnc Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montreal QC Posts: 12,034	If there is sufficient oil and the light does go out after start up then there should be oil pressure. Perhaps it is a lifter. __________________ Norm Ward 2008 blue / silver nomad kawanow / VBA #01136
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ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	I doubt the Amsoil is the cause of the problem, if the bike has warranty left he should take it in to the dealer. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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10-01-2014, 08:48 PM	#6
redjay Top Contributor Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Ontario Posts: 6,978	A hydraulic lifter has bled down maybe ? This usually only happens when the bike has been sat for a few weeks/months. How long has the bike been sat and not started ?
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10-02-2014, 01:30 PM	#7
highwayman2011 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: N Las Vegas, NV Posts: 364	My 2010 makes a lot of racket after sitting a few weeks. Those lifters make a lot of noise. Let it warm up at idle and check the oil level. __________________ 2010 Vulcan Voyager
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10-02-2014, 02:06 PM	#8
tonik Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cleveland Ohio Posts: 714	Not hearing it we are guessing. My guess is sometimes bikes, especially Kaw's, make a crapload of knocking noises on start up...from time to time. I agree with Highwayman, let it warm up at idle a bit and it will go away. If it is toast he isn't going to hurt it much more than it already is and I don't think it is toast.
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10-02-2014, 04:20 PM	#9
t dewitt Jr. Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 4	Thanks for the input, don't know the bike has sat. The bike was used when bought. I will be in Fl. this weekend and get a better idea what is going on, than I will get back to you all. thanks again. By the way, My 2011 Vaquero turned 38,000 miles this A.M. I've been using Mobil 1 10w40 the last 16,000 mi. Lifter noise on start up has go away. Mileage has gone 41 to 43 miles per gallon. Lov'n IT!!!!!!!!!
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Silent Sam Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: On The Shakey Side Posts: 2,501	Push Rod Motor's..maybe with roller cam's...full Synchronous Tranny's.....May I live so long ! (and have the $$$)
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10-03-2014, 04:58 PM	#11
dusted Jr. Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 45	It could be something a simple as bad fuel. Can't see Amsoil being an issue. Once the break in period is complete any synthetic is good.
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