Clutch slipping

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All right I'm now a statistic.

new leftover '07 with 40,000 miles, dobeck TFI, Roadhouse exhaust, coasters.

About two weeks ago I changed my spark plugs, as a matter of fact just before I visited MAC, and I thought I had an issue with my work. It felt like there was a lag in acceleration. So I tweaked my TFI again and after a few runs along with a little different settings felt that the issue was a dead one.

Anyway a ride up to NH, back and a few other daily rides and all seemed well. But yesterday I decided to crack the throttle while going through the gears and I felt that lag in acceleration only this time I noticed my tach as it jumped about 600 rpm's before it leveled back off when it grabbed completely.

Went to gadget's site, looked up past postings and instead of going mean streak spring I just ordered the MT-25 barnet clutch spring. I also contacted Bob about getting some judges washers.

Now I have a question. In gadget's site it says the judges washers will make your wheel lock up but if that as well as a barnett mt-25 clutch spring, am I going to far?

Any first hand knowledge is good.............

[ringadingh]

The wheel only locks up if you don't gear down properly, I like having a positive feel to the clutch. I used the Meanstreak spring and the clutch felt a lot better over the original without the Judges washers.

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Originally Posted by Ringadingh

The wheel only locks up if you don't gear down properly, I like having a positive feel to the clutch. I used the Meanstreak spring and the clutch felt a lot better over the original without the Judges washers.

Thanks Bro

Since I'm going the barnet maybe I'll cancel judges washers.

Drop me a PM and let me know how your hunting is going.

[ringadingh]

Jimmy; Im not sure if they are really necessary on the 1600's, Kawi changed something that sort of does the job the washers do. Ive never looked at a 1600 clutch assembly so Im not sure what they changed from the 1500's

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Originally Posted by Ringadingh

Jimmy; Im not sure if they are really necessary on the 1600's, Kawi changed something that sort of does the job the washers do. Ive never looked at a 1600 clutch assembly so Im not sure what they changed from the 1500's

Maybe someone else will chime in here that has some first hand experience.

Thanks Steve

[cactusjack]

I replaced my clutch spring with the Barnett. I did not install Judge's washers. It grabs a lot better than the original spring ever did.

One bit of advice: use a 1/2" impact wrench and a stout air compressor to break the large clutch nut loose. That baby is tight. Reinstall it using hand tools, not the impact gun.

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Originally Posted by cactusjack

I replaced my clutch spring with the Barnett. I did not install Judge's washers. It grabs a lot better than the original spring ever did.

One bit of advice: use a 1/2" impact wrench and a stout air compressor to break the large clutch nut loose. That baby is tight. Reinstall it using hand tools, not the impact gun.

Thanks CJ (Scott).

Anyone use the judges washers with the barnett?

[MAS Tequila]

On the 1600 the carrier, or holder, is different, follow the link and look at part # 13280 a&b. Kaw kinda took Judges design and incorporated it. You don't need the washers on a 1600. I actually traded these pieces out of my 1600 for the equivalent from the 1500. I just like the feel better. See how 13280a fits into the spring, the 1500's, except for the 04's, didn't have that piece. It's basically half of Judges design.

MT

http://fiche.ronayers.com/Index.cfm/...2/Group/Clutch

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I'd also like to mention I have used only dino oil since I was skeptical of synthetic oil as all mechanics at my dealership feel the wet clutch should have dino or semi-synthetic being the closest to pure synthetic.

I'm not sure till this day about synthetic, but that's just me. I just figure I change the oil by 3,000 miles anyway and the oils have improved across the board. (I use spectro 10/40).

As an additional point the dealer claims that the cruisers need clutch work before most other bikes and say the reason is do to the torque on them.

[macmac]

I run Mobil 1 for cars, and it seems fine to me. I have 1/2 the miles you do Jim. Some guys gotta pretend to work.

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Originally Posted by macmac

I run Mobil 1 for cars, and it seems fine to me. I have 1/2 the miles you do Jim. Some guys gotta pretend to work.

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Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

On the 1600 the carrier, or holder, is different, follow the link and look at part # 13280 a&b. Kaw kinda took Judges design and incorporated it. You don't need the washers on a 1600. I actually traded these pieces out of my 1600 for the equivalent from the 1500. I just like the feel better. See how 13280a fits into the spring, the 1500's, except for the 04's, didn't have that piece. It's basically half of Judges design.

MT

http://fiche.ronayers.com/Index.cfm/...2/Group/Clutch

I'm going to have to take your word for it as I'm a little at a loss. You aswered my question though.........don't need judges.
Thanks
Jim

[macmac]

You can take his word for it easy. I do.

[Cajunrider]

I have the Barnett MT-25 on hand for when the day comes. No Judge's washers.

[cactusjack]

Originally Posted by Cajunrider

I have the Barnett MT-25 on hand for when the day comes. No Judge's washers.

You want to have gasket on hand, too. If you have to order one, it may take awhile. None of the dealers near my house had one in stock when the time came for one. I have one on hand right now, in fact.