Barack Obama, Oil Prices and Reality

[NRiderUSA]

Good reading and lots of gotcha's.

Barack Obama, Oil Prices and Reality
http://townhall.com/columnists/derek...ity/page/full/

Obama's War on Oil
http://spectator.org/archives/2011/0...mas-war-on-oil

[AlabamaNomadRider]

Glad to see the mention of Clinton and Bush. I sure miss those guys. When they were in office I didn't realize just how good they were.

[NRiderUSA]

Oh hell, this mess has been being built since the 70's and Carter. The pieces and powers that be are in alignment for the perfect storm so to speak from someone of the mind set to take advantage of the situation.

Guess its a good thing they didnt decide we stop eating food till they come up with a viable option to replace it...... we would all be starved to death by now.

[NRiderUSA]

Hadnt seen this one .... interesting video

Canadian Talk Show Host Destroys Obama Over Keystone Decisio
http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/...-decision.html

[Timay]

I did just a tiny bit of research and found this:

Q: Are politicians to blame for high prices?
A: Politicians can't do much to affect gasoline prices because the market for oil is global. Allowing increased drilling in the U.S. would contribute only small amounts of oil to world supply, not nearly enough to affect prices. The Associated Press conducted a statistical analysis of 36 years of monthly inflation-adjusted gasoline prices and U.S. domestic oil production and found no statistical correlation between oil that comes out of U.S. wells and the price at the pump. Over the last three years, domestic oil production has risen and gasoline prices rose sharply. In the 1980s and 1990s, U.S. production fell dramatically, and prices did too.

Here is the rest of the article

Tim A

[Timay]

Originally Posted by NRiderUSA

Hadnt seen this one .... interesting video

Canadian Talk Show Host Destroys Obama Over Keystone Decisio
http://conservatives4palin.com/2012/01/video-canadian-talk-show-host-destroys-obama-over-keystone-decision.html

The Canadian didn't do quite enough research...if he had thought about it, he might have came to the inescapable conclusion that the 700,000 gallons of oil from the XL pipeline would amount to a fart in a whirlwind when compared to the 90 million barrels used...and he didn't seem to grasp the fact that the Canadian oil that comes down to the US refineries doesn't stay here, but goes into the global market. Oh - and the jobs that would be created? About 4,000 construction jobs that would be temporary and gone once the pipeline is finished...

Here is a chart showing where we get our oil (yes, Venezuela is at 10%). We import 58% and 42% is domestic.

Meh... on the Canadian. Here is some info on the XL pipeline and how Obama figures in: Look here

Tim A

[NRiderUSA]

What?? I listened to it before I decided to post it, it covered every Obama excuse used he used. In fact thats one of the reasons I decided to post it, that is what other countries are starting to feel about America.... or at least the Westernized one... maybe the Communist, Dictators, Socialist and Marxists.... and of course the Islamist Extermists making a fortune by selling something that if we would produce would cut into their terrorist cash flow....they are all tickled pink....
But our Allies are wondering what the F*** we did to ourselves and the representation of America to the rest of the world.

The Nebraska asked him to help out... that was already overcome a couple years before he started using that excuse to stop it.... it was re-routed and Nebraska approved it.... do some research on it.

The increase in oil production since he came in, double talk...research it somewhere besides the Obama network.... hes' taking credit for something that was implemented before he was elected, and doesnt count the number of stops he put in place after.
And from what I have found... mostly private land... which although I'm sure he is trying to count as his decision...isnt.

The drilling he has allowed...again research it somewhere besides the Obam network.. show me....

There is plenty of evidence out there, if your not afraid to look for it.

As far as how much would come from Canada versus Argentina... doesnt matter, why pair up with enemies of democracy to provide something our allies can provide us?

As far as getting us off foreign oil promise Obama made, just like a lot of other promises... hasnt been kept, or4 not in the manner he presented them to get elected..... It would seem after seeing the actions versus the words.... that plan is not limited to just foreign but oil period.. in spite of economic and energy being based on it.

As far as alternate energy.... when it will work then do it.... dont stop us from eating cause some down the road research will eventually find a food substitute......we will all starve by the time its ready to eat..... or as is in the case of fossil fuels available to us now even just in US territory...... all the jobs that have been destroyed and lost in his search of the utopia of the promised land..... that doesnt exist yet.
My favorite excuse is the "Even if we started drilling today it would be at least "Fill in the number" years before it would be viable solution to today's problem...... You know they started using that when Carter was president... lets see he lost in 80.....that would be 32 years ago... wow..just imagine if they had started drilling 32 years ago... it would have provided a viable solution and we wouldnt be here.....

[ponch]

Originally Posted by AlabamaNomadRider

Glad to see the mention of Clinton and Bush. I sure miss those guys. When they were in office I didn't realize just how good they were.

Some days it's him:





But most of the time:

[Timay]

I think you get all your info from Faux Noise (Fox News)...and a Canadian.

I spent an hour or so researching your claim that our allies are wondering WTF we did to ourselves and come to the conclusion that our allies are not, in fact, wondering that, but think more highly of us than one would expect after listening to conservative rants.

I know about the pipeline, Nebraska's part in it, where it's going and what the oil will be used for, etc. , and the knowledge came from many sources.

If you mean Fox News by saying "research it somewhere besides the Obam network", I use Fox to get my curiosity bump itching, then go do some real research. If you want to have some fun sometime, google "is fox news fair and balanced", then sit back for some fun reading.

When you say "research it somewhere besides the Obam network", I say fine and again I quote you - "show me...."

Tim A

[NRiderUSA]

Didnt say Fox.. I did said someplace besides the Obama Network.... which granted make take some time to find sources for.

[blowndodge]

Even though Fox news was voted the most trusted news organization by an independent Tim won't accept it because he believes otherwise. Just like some of the OJ Simpson jurors, even if there was video tape of him killing his wife would still not believe it..

[NRiderUSA]

You can tell a vampire by showing him a cross.. they turn away, averts his eyes and hides...from fear.
You can tell a liberal by saying Fox News is your source, they turn away, avert their eyes and plug their ears.... from fear..... they cant listen cause they were told they will turn to dust if they do or something..... source is more important that whats being told.

Oh yeah and the post was from another country... so the source and the facts are what they are and out of their mouths... must be a plot right?.....it is what it is.

There is a whole lot of content in that video and the other links I provided as my source and besides what you could only try to discredit with the amount of oil being insignificant...in your opinion.

You did not discredit or unravel anything. What about everything else in it? and..... it aint from Fox.

[ponch]

Everyone knows vampires aren't for real.

[NRiderUSA]

Western states demand feds return public land amid clamor for more drilling

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1qMiON1gu

[glwilson]

Tim's resource; the Oil & Gas Journal was a good resource for information that countered some of his own posting. Thanks Tim! Nice work.

I try to be open minded about the oil situation here in the U.S.; however I don't quite find the same information as you Tim. Maybe it is possible you stop at an article when it meets your expectations; rather than questioning its validity.

So... here are some tidbits from your resource magazine... I am not questioning the validity of the resource since you provided it.

http://www.ogj.com/articles/2012/03/...ne-prices.html

HOUSTON, Mar. 20
03/20/2012
By Steven Poruban
Oil & Gas Journal Senior Editor


Markets are largely driven by perception, Gerard said, and when Obama in his early days in office sent out the message to the market that oil and gas production from the Gulf of Mexico, for example, would be higher today than it was then, that is part of the reason we’re experiencing higher gasoline prices in the US.

To illustrate this point about clear market signals, Gerard recalled the example of when US gasoline prices were surpassing $4/gal during George W. Bush’s presidency, his administration lifted the moratorium on offshore drilling and in a matter of days, oil prices fell by $15-16/bbl.

A major component to relieving upward pressure on gasoline prices in the US will come from increasing domestic oil production and not from raising taxes, American Petroleum Institute Pres. and Chief Executive Officer Jack Gerard told reporters Mar. 20 during a conference call from Washington, DC.

Gerard said President Barack Obama’s administration needs a “reality check” as well as a revision to the unclear signals it is sending the market.

This is something that US voters understand as well, Gerard noted, citing statistics from a poll conducted earlier this month by Harris Interactive on behalf of API among 1,009 registered voters in the US.

American exports are not causing gasoline prices to rise. Less than 10 percent of U.S.-produced gasoline and diesel is exported. U.S. refiners produce fuels primarily for American markets and always have.

For some very basic explanations of what causes oil prices to fluctuate, and how the price breaks-down at the pump... check out the site the OGJ suggests: http://gaspricesexplained.org/