Severe clutch grab after spring replacement.

faxxxy · 05-03-2011, 08:36 PM

My bike is dangerous. :-[
There is no way it can be ridden like this.

I changed my clutch spring to the Barnett spring a week ago and it hasn't stopped raining long enough to test it.

I took it out tonight and it about threw me off the back. My neck is still hurting. There is absolutely NO feathering of this new clutch. It goes straight from full on to full off.

Has anyone else had this problem?

**Cajunrider** · 05-03-2011, 09:18 PM

No Faxxxy. I just changed to the MT-25 last week and it is performing great. No chance that your 3 washers may have fallen when you slid the assembly in? You torqued the nut to 107 ft lbs? Did you have any problem getting the small cover snap ring back into the groove? If you feel that this is all good, adjust your clutch lever all the way out.

**ringadingh** · 05-03-2011, 09:50 PM

You better take it apart and see whats up in there. It does sound like the washers may have slipped or been installed incorrectly.
When I installed my washers the first time I tried the clutch first without the motor running when I finished the job. I heard a small tink noise once and when I checked I found that I had cracked one of the washers. I replaced it with another that I made myself and its been good ever since.

cactusjack · 05-03-2011, 10:05 PM

Sounds like something wasn't installed correctly. The biggest difference with the mt25 spring is a slightly stronger lever pull. Otherwise it should work like any other clutch.

**Cajunrider** · 05-03-2011, 10:11 PM

Exactly Scott.....my lever is stiffer and the clutch seems a little more positive than before. Other than that, no difference.

**MAS Tequila** · 05-03-2011, 10:18 PM

Are you absolutely sure that you did not put the new spring in backwards?

Usually when the limiter springs slip out of position the clutch slips like crazy, but sometimes...

Did you get the limiter springs back in like this...)()

MT

faxxxy · 05-04-2011, 10:05 PM

Got'er fixed..
Not real sure what it was, but I took everything apart and re-assembled and now it seems to work fine.

I do have another problem though.. :-[

I'm starting a new thread about it. :'(

faxxxy · 05-07-2011, 12:47 AM

BTW.. The clutch nut was under torqued.
I dont know by how much, but before I torqued it, it had two of the nuts threads exposed, after I torqued it, there were three of the shafts threads exposed. So to get to the proper torque, it was roughly 2 or 3 full turns too loose.

So to recap.
If "the nut" is too loose, the clutch will be SUPER grabby.

Vulcan Nomad · 04-28-2012, 08:09 PM

Hi, I am trying to remove the DAMPER CAM nut from my 2002 Kawasaki Vulcan Nomad 1500, the nut does not want to break loose. Anyone ever tore the engine down this far before? If so is the nut a left hand thread or right hand thread? How did you remove it?

Thanks
Vulcan Nomad

**ringadingh** · 04-28-2012, 08:21 PM

I'm not sure if its RH or LH thread but take a look at it on our online shop manual, that should get you back in business.

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faxxxy Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bentonville, Home of Wal-Mart Posts: 142	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. My bike is dangerous. :-[ There is no way it can be ridden like this. I changed my clutch spring to the Barnett spring a week ago and it hasn't stopped raining long enough to test it. I took it out tonight and it about threw me off the back. My neck is still hurting. There is absolutely NO feathering of this new clutch. It goes straight from full on to full off. Has anyone else had this problem? Login or Register to Remove Ads
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Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. No Faxxxy. I just changed to the MT-25 last week and it is performing great. No chance that your 3 washers may have fallen when you slid the assembly in? You torqued the nut to 107 ft lbs? Did you have any problem getting the small cover snap ring back into the groove? If you feel that this is all good, adjust your clutch lever all the way out. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482
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05-03-2011, 09:50 PM	#3
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. You better take it apart and see whats up in there. It does sound like the washers may have slipped or been installed incorrectly. When I installed my washers the first time I tried the clutch first without the motor running when I finished the job. I heard a small tink noise once and when I checked I found that I had cracked one of the washers. I replaced it with another that I made myself and its been good ever since. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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cactusjack Mega-Contributor Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Where it doesn't snow...ever! Posts: 21,926	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. Sounds like something wasn't installed correctly. The biggest difference with the mt25 spring is a slightly stronger lever pull. Otherwise it should work like any other clutch. __________________ Scott "Cactusjack" Hanks VBA #00105 H.O.G. #4250060 2011 H-D Ultra Limited 103ci :: 2011 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited w/Stage 1 :: Rallies: Mesquite '08\|Custer '09\|Cortez '10\|Crescent City '11\|Kanab '12\|Antlers '12\|Estes Park '13\|Antlers '13\|Orofino '14\|The Dalles '17
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05-03-2011, 10:11 PM	#5
Cajunrider Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: (SE Louisiana) Posts: 8,340	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. Exactly Scott.....my lever is stiffer and the clutch seems a little more positive than before. Other than that, no difference. __________________ 2016 Electra Glide Ultra Limited CVO Palladium Silver / Phantom Blue 110 cu in SE 2012 Electra Glide Ultra Limited (Traded 6/22/16) Tequila Sunrise / HD Orange Vance & Hines true dual headers Rinehart 4" slip ons Screamin Eagle Super Tuner Screamin Eagle Stage 1 intake Dyno tuned H.O.G.# 4514015 2007 Nomad 1600 (Traded 6/23/12) VBA #482 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-03-2011, 10:18 PM	#6
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. Are you absolutely sure that you did not put the new spring in backwards? Usually when the limiter springs slip out of position the clutch slips like crazy, but sometimes... Did you get the limiter springs back in like this...)() MT __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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05-04-2011, 10:05 PM	#7
faxxxy Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bentonville, Home of Wal-Mart Posts: 142	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. Got'er fixed.. Not real sure what it was, but I took everything apart and re-assembled and now it seems to work fine. I do have another problem though.. :-[ I'm starting a new thread about it. :'(
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05-07-2011, 12:47 AM	#8
faxxxy Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bentonville, Home of Wal-Mart Posts: 142	Severe clutch grab after spring replacement. BTW.. The clutch nut was under torqued. I dont know by how much, but before I torqued it, it had two of the nuts threads exposed, after I torqued it, there were three of the shafts threads exposed. So to get to the proper torque, it was roughly 2 or 3 full turns too loose. So to recap. If "the nut" is too loose, the clutch will be SUPER grabby.
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04-28-2012, 08:09 PM	#9
Vulcan Nomad Jr. Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Delaware Posts: 2	Hi, I am trying to remove the DAMPER CAM nut from my 2002 Kawasaki Vulcan Nomad 1500, the nut does not want to break loose. Anyone ever tore the engine down this far before? If so is the nut a left hand thread or right hand thread? How did you remove it? Thanks Vulcan Nomad
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04-28-2012, 08:21 PM	#10
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	I'm not sure if its RH or LH thread but take a look at it on our online shop manual, that should get you back in business. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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