Spring in my filter

mick56 · 03-26-2017, 10:48 AM

Good afternoon Gentlemen.I just changed my oil,and found this spring hanging onto my filter.Its about an inch long,and very fine.I reckon it must belong to the rev limiter on the camshaft.I had the head off last year,and messed up the torque on the head bolts,so blew a gasket.Next some time soon,i am going to fix that.I have heard of people removing the limiter,can anyone who has actually done that,give me a run through of whats involved please.

DragonLady58 · 03-26-2017, 01:02 PM

Its either that or the KACR springs....

**Kawalski Rider** · 03-26-2017, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DragonLady58

Its either that or the KACR springs....

KACR springs??

recumbentbob · 03-26-2017, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kawalski Rider

KACR springs??

KACR Kawasaki Automatic Compression Release

**Kawalski Rider** · 03-26-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by recumbentbob

KACR Kawasaki Automatic Compression Release

Ahhh... Thanks

mick56 · 03-26-2017, 02:47 PM

Some very clever person, on another site,suggested it was the side stand spring.I reckon he needs help putting petrol in his bike,and should be kept well away from mechanical things.

**MAS Tequila** · 03-26-2017, 05:10 PM

The rev limiter is all electronic and hence it is in the ECM.

That spring is specific with the squared ends, and I just can't think of it right now.

How big is it?

MT

**MAS Tequila** · 03-26-2017, 05:27 PM

I knew it would come to me.

That is the spring off the water pump idler arm assembly.

If you take the cover off to access the clutch, it's right there at about 2 o'clock from the clutch.

It keeps tension on the drive chain.

It's the only spring with square shoulders that I can remember being inside the engine.

Don't worry too much, it likely broke and fell into the sump.

Weren't you trying to diagnose a noise from that part of the engine?

MT

**Rasta** · 03-26-2017, 05:54 PM

Looks like the spring in this diagram(21118a) :
http://www.kawasakioriginalparts.com...-G2&country=GB

**MAS Tequila** · 03-26-2017, 06:01 PM

Try this one, look at the squared off shoulders, 92081.
http://www.kawasakioriginalparts.com...-L4&country=US

As far as the KACR just slide it off the cam.

If the spring were off the KACR your engine wouldn't be running.

MT

**Rasta** · 03-26-2017, 07:13 PM

That does look like it MAS!!

mick56 · 03-26-2017, 09:43 PM

Good shout Gentlemen,thank you both,

DragonLady58 · 03-26-2017, 11:10 PM

----MAS IS DA MAN!---- I keep thinking those damn springs on the cam are the damn centrif. advance on like the old Big Honda Twins...hahaha....then my brain engages and karc....especially if I'm below 4 cups of coffee in the morning.
Yep, the rev limiter is all electronic....Mick, I'd say look at all your little pieces parts on that waterpump. Don't wanta mess that thing up....
The Vulcan 1500s don't like to be run hot, at all!

Lafer · 03-27-2017, 11:52 AM

Looks exactly like KACR Spring. Just changed two of them a few months back:

It should run without it but maybe starting will be a little difficult and could dig a hole in a rocket cover cause KACR unit will be not releasing and it will slapping towards the bottom of the rocker cover...

mick56 · 03-27-2017, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lafer

Looks exactly like KACR Spring. Just changed two of them a few months back:

It should run without it but maybe starting will be a little difficult and could dig a hole in a rocket cover cause KACR unit will be not releasing and it will slapping towards the bottom of the rocker cover...

That would explain the top end noise its been making.

Although,as Mas pointed out,those springs have a curved end,according to the parts drawings anyway.We will see when i pull it apart.

03-26-2017, 10:48 AM	#1
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Spring in my filter Good afternoon Gentlemen.I just changed my oil,and found this spring hanging onto my filter.Its about an inch long,and very fine.I reckon it must belong to the rev limiter on the camshaft.I had the head off last year,and messed up the torque on the head bolts,so blew a gasket.Next some time soon,i am going to fix that.I have heard of people removing the limiter,can anyone who has actually done that,give me a run through of whats involved please. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find. Login or Register to Remove Ads Last edited by mick56; 10-26-2018 at 05:57 PM.
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03-26-2017, 01:02 PM	#2
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,361	Its either that or the KACR springs.... __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride!
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03-26-2017, 02:47 PM	#6
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Some very clever person, on another site,suggested it was the side stand spring.I reckon he needs help putting petrol in his bike,and should be kept well away from mechanical things. __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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03-26-2017, 05:10 PM	#7
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	The rev limiter is all electronic and hence it is in the ECM. That spring is specific with the squared ends, and I just can't think of it right now. How big is it? MT __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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03-26-2017, 05:27 PM	#8
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	I knew it would come to me. That is the spring off the water pump idler arm assembly. If you take the cover off to access the clutch, it's right there at about 2 o'clock from the clutch. It keeps tension on the drive chain. It's the only spring with square shoulders that I can remember being inside the engine. Don't worry too much, it likely broke and fell into the sump. Weren't you trying to diagnose a noise from that part of the engine? MT __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936 Last edited by MAS Tequila; 03-26-2017 at 05:31 PM.
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03-26-2017, 05:54 PM	#9
Rasta Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ankeny Iowa Posts: 3,697	Looks like the spring in this diagram(21118a) : http://www.kawasakioriginalparts.com...-G2&country=GB __________________ VROC#34321 VBA#01867 2012 NCR Rally Savanna. IL. 2013 National Rally Estes Park, CO 2014 NC/SC Rally in the Ozarks, Mountain View AR 2014 NE US/Eastern Canada Rally,Lincoln NH 2015 VBA/VRA Eureka Springs AR 2015 Antlers Rally, Antlers OK. 2016 SCR Rally Salem MO. 2016 NCR Rally Hillsboro WI 2017 Eureka Springs AR 2017 National Rally Lake George NY 2004 Blue and Silver 1500 Nomad(RIP 9-26-19) 2000 Red and Silver 1500 Nomad 2012 Pearl White 1700 Voyager
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03-26-2017, 06:01 PM	#10
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	Try this one, look at the squared off shoulders, 92081. http://www.kawasakioriginalparts.com...-L4&country=US As far as the KACR just slide it off the cam. If the spring were off the KACR your engine wouldn't be running. MT __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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03-26-2017, 07:13 PM	#11
Rasta Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Ankeny Iowa Posts: 3,697	That does look like it MAS!! __________________ VROC#34321 VBA#01867 2012 NCR Rally Savanna. IL. 2013 National Rally Estes Park, CO 2014 NC/SC Rally in the Ozarks, Mountain View AR 2014 NE US/Eastern Canada Rally,Lincoln NH 2015 VBA/VRA Eureka Springs AR 2015 Antlers Rally, Antlers OK. 2016 SCR Rally Salem MO. 2016 NCR Rally Hillsboro WI 2017 Eureka Springs AR 2017 National Rally Lake George NY 2004 Blue and Silver 1500 Nomad(RIP 9-26-19) 2000 Red and Silver 1500 Nomad 2012 Pearl White 1700 Voyager
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03-26-2017, 09:43 PM	#12
mick56 Sr. Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: The Newforest, England Posts: 4,664	Good shout Gentlemen,thank you both, __________________ when this you see, remember me, and bear me in your mind, let all the world say what they may, speak of me as you find.
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03-26-2017, 11:10 PM	#13
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,361	----MAS IS DA MAN!---- I keep thinking those damn springs on the cam are the damn centrif. advance on like the old Big Honda Twins...hahaha....then my brain engages and karc....especially if I'm below 4 cups of coffee in the morning. Yep, the rev limiter is all electronic....Mick, I'd say look at all your little pieces parts on that waterpump. Don't wanta mess that thing up.... The Vulcan 1500s don't like to be run hot, at all! __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride!
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03-27-2017, 11:52 AM	#14
Lafer Jr. Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Mount Holly, North Carolina Posts: 24	Looks exactly like KACR Spring. Just changed two of them a few months back: It should run without it but maybe starting will be a little difficult and could dig a hole in a rocket cover cause KACR unit will be not releasing and it will slapping towards the bottom of the rocker cover...
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