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Old 04-17-2017, 11:15 AM   #1
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Oil leak right side

Could use some assistance on this one. Couple photos attached. So I've enjoyed 2,000 miles of trouble free riding following my JOG/SOG near disaster and consequent bullet dodging. Saturday we went for a couple hundred mile ride and I noticed when we got home, there was a misting of oil on the right side. It got my right pant leg, right saddlebag and even up onto the seat (so pretty bad). It had never done this before. I checked the bike over to see if I could figure out where it was coming from and it appeared to be the breather hose from crankcase to right side dog bowl. I cleaned it up and checked oil level. The change wasn't even noticeable (always seems to look worse than it is when they're leaking). We had a ride scheduled for Sunday to go up and see my kids and grand kids for Easter. I stopped a couple times to check it and cleaned up the mess again. By the time we had gone 150 miles my right pant leg was soaked through and I had oil everywhere (much worse). I'm not seeing anything dripping and it's a mist, but obviously a pretty serious mist. The photos are showing the area where I'm finding the oil. Mostly concentrated around these two hoses and little canister thing, but also on spark plug boot, exhaust, then down the side from wind moving it. Nothing in the sparkplug tube areas and nothing puddled up in the spark plug holes. It's definitely not the cam plugs as I've fixed that one for good a few years back.

Was just checking some things and found this. I seem to have a ton of crankcase pressure for some reason. I've never checked it before so can't say for sure if it's supposed to be like this, but I'm thinking not. Bike isn't running any different than it has before (not noticeably down on power).

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Old 04-17-2017, 01:56 PM   #2
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why not take that crankcase breather tube and put on an extender and another new hose and run it round the jugs on the left side and down under the seat to the ground and cut off any excess tube and exhaust the oily mist to the pavement under the frame of the bike
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Old 04-17-2017, 02:49 PM   #3
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Could use some assistance on this one. Couple photos attached. So I've enjoyed 2,000 miles of trouble free riding following my JOG/SOG near disaster and consequent bullet dodging. Saturday we went for a couple hundred mile ride and I noticed when we got home, there was a misting of oil on the right side. It got my right pant leg, right saddlebag and even up onto the seat (so pretty bad). It had never done this before. I checked the bike over to see if I could figure out where it was coming from and it appeared to be the breather hose from crankcase to right side dog bowl. I cleaned it up and checked oil level. The change wasn't even noticeable (always seems to look worse than it is when they're leaking). We had a ride scheduled for Sunday to go up and see my kids and grand kids for Easter. I stopped a couple times to check it and cleaned up the mess again. By the time we had gone 150 miles my right pant leg was soaked through and I had oil everywhere (much worse). I'm not seeing anything dripping and it's a mist, but obviously a pretty serious mist. The photos are showing the area where I'm finding the oil. Mostly concentrated around these two hoses and little canister thing, but also on spark plug boot, exhaust, then down the side from wind moving it. Nothing in the sparkplug tube areas and nothing puddled up in the spark plug holes. It's definitely not the cam plugs as I've fixed that one for good a few years back.

Was just checking some things and found this. I seem to have a ton of crankcase pressure for some reason. I've never checked it before so can't say for sure if it's supposed to be like this, but I'm thinking not. Bike isn't running any different than it has before (not noticeably down on power).

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The canister you refer to, is it a PCV valve? Positive crankcase valve? Could it have stopped working, or is it inline backwards?
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Old 04-17-2017, 02:51 PM   #4
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Dan Pull the Left Front Spark Plug and unscrew the tube check and see if the cam chain has cut thru it there is a weep hole on the front and it will seep around every thing . also you can clean it off and spray powdered deodorant around everything then go do short stop and go riding looking at each stop and it will show up . Worth a shot . V Scott PS be carefull about those 2 little square nuts that fasten that intake tube to the backing plate

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Old 04-17-2017, 03:44 PM   #5
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The canister you refer to, is it a PCV valve? Positive crankcase valve? Could it have stopped working, or is it inline backwards?
Did some reading and found out the canister is to pass pre-heat water to the carb for quicker warm ups. I edited it out of my original post once I found out it's purpose in life. The crankcase vent line is a straight shot to the dog bowl. No pcv

I picked up one of these this morning (see photo)

I'll check the spark plug tubes, but wouldn't/shouldn't there be some evidence of oil in them if they're leaking?
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Old 04-17-2017, 09:18 PM   #6
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Yes there is a lot pressure in that crankcase. I has the motor running one time and I decided to had some seafoam......didn't happen...had to shut the motor down then add it.
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Old 04-18-2017, 12:10 AM   #7
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Theres nothing wrong with you crankcase pressure! You just have 2 huge pistons hopping up and down in those cylinders!
On getting oiled down, check you rear head top cover, see if theres a oil leak there.... The 1500s are bad about seeping there.
Especially if you do alot of high speed riding....
Sometimes its the crankcase vent hose. What I do, is get the chrome filter, I tee off the crankcase hose, to the vent, right below the tank, other side of tee I run to my intake, If pressure has to be vented, both the engine intake and the filter handle it, it theres alot of oil mist....it should return to your crankcase from the hose.....
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:11 AM   #8
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Mine is seeping out the rear cam plug so I need to fix it but I like the idea of ( tee in the filter ) I have an open air kit and already have the crankcase filter laying on a shelf but not installed I think I will now Thanks to DLs idea and yes I misread and thought You had oil on the plug boot and did not know if You had checked the opposite side tube . Was running mine yesterday with the filter off and yes LOTS of crankcase pressure . Keep us posted !
 
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Looks like Scott was right. Pulled the left front spark plug boot and I've got oil in the tube. Looks like it's cam extenders and a new spark plug tube for Danno.
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:58 AM   #10
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get 2 tubes, the other side is probably the same
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you can use the hex bolt method to get the tubes out
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get 2 tubes, the other side is probably the same
Yes, no doubt. I figured on that.
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There have been a few that only needed orings on the tubes but You will know when You pull the Tube
 
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The tube has normal threads right? That thing will not come out of there. Put some pretty good crank to it and it's not budging. Afraid to bugger the threads up, or break it off in there.
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Get a bolt that head is a tight fit in the tube. In your vise, jamb up a couple of nuts on this bolt, good and tight, adding some red locktite to the nuts and threads just before bottoming them out on each other, aligning them so a socket will go over both nuts.
Drop the head of this bolt into the spark plug tube, put a socket over the nuts, snap on your trusty long pull handle and apply yourself.
Chances are the oring is baked, probably some sealer on the threads....who knows what kinda sealing crap they might've used. Usually just a few little hits from my 3/4" or 1/2" impact turned down is enough to rattle it loose quickly....
Just look on your threads of your tubes....you want the opposite of screwing them in....
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