Need help removing alternator rotor on 1600 Nomad

hammer · 05-05-2018, 05:03 PM

I need to replace the inner stator which means the Alternator Rotor needs to be removed.

I am following the Kawi manual which says use special tool# 57001-1410. That is supposed to hold the rotor while removing the 17mm rotor bolt. OK I don't have that special tool.

What have others done and how did you remove and re-install that bolt to 58 ft lbs? Which direction does the bolt loosen and tighten?

I turned the back wheel forward a nudge and the rotor turns counter clock wise (same direction) so I am thinking the bolt must loosen clockwise?

Any help getting past this step would be very much appreciated.

DragonLady58 · 05-05-2018, 05:19 PM

well, I have a rather large belt wrench, I tighten down on flywheel and I just hit the bolt with my 3/8s air impact turned down low. The shock loosens the bolt....
Then its just a matter of tapping it a few times with a large plastic tipped hammer, usually slides right off...
Tightens with engine rotation....

hammer · 05-05-2018, 05:56 PM

Flywheel? Is that the same as the rotor?

Looking at the "left" side of the bike at this large 6 1/4" rotor, is the engine and the alternator rotor rotation counterclockwise? I am not sure what tightens with engine rotation means.

Lefty loosey and righty tighty on the bolt? It's a special bolt that tightens left if that's it.

The bolt is supposed to tighten with 58 ft lbs. Can I hold the strap tight enough to get that?

DragonLady58 · 05-05-2018, 08:28 PM

Flywheel/rotor, same difference....call me a oddball, yep, wrench will hold plenty tight for 100 ft.pds!
Loosen bolt....

**MAS Tequila** · 05-05-2018, 08:38 PM

Put the rear wheel on the ground and with the bike in gear
hit it with an impact or breaker bar.

It’s going to come right off.

hammer · 05-05-2018, 08:54 PM

Nah not an oddball and I appreciate the help from a talented wrench.

Thanks all, inner stator is a 1st me. I have an air and electric impact gun so I may be half way there.

As before, does the bolt loosen left and tighten right?

**Badger: Black Hills** · 05-06-2018, 01:34 AM

I made a wrench out of a 2 x 4, leather belt and a few roofing nails. I made the belt loop overly large to fit the rotor so I could rotate the 2 x 4 with a pipe wrench to tighten the loop against the rotation of the nut.

The rotor itself is just held on by magnetism.

Good luck!

Snake Ranch · 05-06-2018, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hammer

I need to replace the inner stator which means the Alternator Rotor needs to be removed.

I am following the Kawi manual which says use special tool# 57001-1410. That is supposed to hold the rotor while removing the 17mm rotor bolt. OK I don't have that special tool.

What have others done and how did you remove and re-install that bolt to 58 ft lbs? Which direction does the bolt loosen and tighten?

I turned the back wheel forward a nudge and the rotor turns counter clock wise (same direction) so I am thinking the bolt must loosen clockwise?

Any help getting past this step would be very much appreciated.

Righty tighty lefty loosey for right hand bolts. The opposite for left hand bolts.

hammer · 05-06-2018, 01:59 PM

Yes, so my question again, is this rotor bolt a left hand or right hand bolt???

DOES THE ROTOR BOLT TIGHTEN LEFT OR RIGHT????

I have seen very few bolts that tighten left but I don't want to be surprised on this one.

duo1983 · 05-06-2018, 03:08 PM

Sorry bub I don't know but when you find out let me know please. Both my stators are done for and I'm getting ready to replace them soon. Once you make that video let us know. I'll ask around some of my shops about the inner statorlet and let you know.

ldhthept · 05-06-2018, 03:11 PM

Turn the darn thing to the left, if that doesn’t work turn it to the right...

duo1983 · 05-06-2018, 03:11 PM

So what stators did you buy and why? I want to buy some good ones that can run everything without worry

duo1983 · 05-06-2018, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ldhthept

Turn the darn thing to the left, if that doesn’t work turn it to the right...

He's is trying to keep from screwing up the bolt or threads I can understand his hesitation. It's better to be safe than sorry.

hammer · 05-06-2018, 04:05 PM

Yes that's it. I really would like to know.

Loosen left or right. Someone must know.

A lot of folks here, like me, are not experienced mechanics. The manual assumes you are which can lead down a bad hole if you fill in the blanks with mistakes. That's the value of the forum. You can overcome ignorance with information. So there should be no stupid questions. The answers inspire confidence too.

Information:
I got the Rick's Motorsport Electrics 21-219 OEM Inner Stator. I am in Canada so I sourced it through FortNine.

**VARider07** · 05-07-2018, 03:37 PM

[QUOTE=hammer;702380]Yes that's it. I really would like to know.

Loosen left or right. Someone must know.

Okay...I went to my manual. IF a bolt is Left Hand threaded, there is a LH by that bolt in the diagram. Example: in the radiator section, there is/are bolts that are LH Threaded. That/they have a LH by the bolt.

So...since there is NO LH anywhere in the rotor/stator diagrams, it is Right hand threaded... Lefty loosen/ Righty tighty. There ya go...it is NOT left hand threaded. Go for it. (Turn left to loosen.) Final Answer.

05-05-2018, 05:03 PM	#1
hammer Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329	Need help removing alternator rotor on 1600 Nomad I need to replace the inner stator which means the Alternator Rotor needs to be removed. I am following the Kawi manual which says use special tool# 57001-1410. That is supposed to hold the rotor while removing the 17mm rotor bolt. OK I don't have that special tool. What have others done and how did you remove and re-install that bolt to 58 ft lbs? Which direction does the bolt loosen and tighten? I turned the back wheel forward a nudge and the rotor turns counter clock wise (same direction) so I am thinking the bolt must loosen clockwise? Any help getting past this step would be very much appreciated. __________________ Hammer aka CrocHammer KawaNow#00988, VROC#26389, VR#2202 Abbotsford, BC, Canada 2006 Black Nomad Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-05-2018, 05:19 PM	#2
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	well, I have a rather large belt wrench, I tighten down on flywheel and I just hit the bolt with my 3/8s air impact turned down low. The shock loosens the bolt.... Then its just a matter of tapping it a few times with a large plastic tipped hammer, usually slides right off... Tightens with engine rotation.... __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride! Last edited by DragonLady58; 05-05-2018 at 05:26 PM.
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05-05-2018, 05:56 PM	#3
hammer Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329	Flywheel? Is that the same as the rotor? Looking at the "left" side of the bike at this large 6 1/4" rotor, is the engine and the alternator rotor rotation counterclockwise? I am not sure what tightens with engine rotation means. Lefty loosey and righty tighty on the bolt? It's a special bolt that tightens left if that's it. The bolt is supposed to tighten with 58 ft lbs. Can I hold the strap tight enough to get that? __________________ Hammer aka CrocHammer KawaNow#00988, VROC#26389, VR#2202 Abbotsford, BC, Canada 2006 Black Nomad
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05-05-2018, 08:28 PM	#4
DragonLady58 Sr. Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Somewhere South of Alaska.... Posts: 2,351	Flywheel/rotor, same difference....call me a oddball, yep, wrench will hold plenty tight for 100 ft.pds! Loosen bolt.... __________________ --------------------- Don't start no schit, there won't be no schit.... My Sarcasm is directly proportional to the amount of Stupidity involved --------------------- VBA#03239 VROC#37400 VRA --------------------- 2014 Vaquero 2001 Nomad FI 2003 Street Glide (sold) 1500 Meanie, fresh rebuild (sold) 90s BUBF Bobber (sold) 2001 UltraCycle FatPounder (Sold) 1975 HD ElectraGlide (Sold) 1982 Kawasaki Z1 Chopper (Sold) Suck It Up & Ride!
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05-05-2018, 08:38 PM	#5
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	Put the rear wheel on the ground and with the bike in gear hit it with an impact or breaker bar. It’s going to come right off. __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936 Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-05-2018, 08:54 PM	#6
hammer Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329	Nah not an oddball and I appreciate the help from a talented wrench. Thanks all, inner stator is a 1st me. I have an air and electric impact gun so I may be half way there. As before, does the bolt loosen left and tighten right? __________________ Hammer aka CrocHammer KawaNow#00988, VROC#26389, VR#2202 Abbotsford, BC, Canada 2006 Black Nomad
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05-06-2018, 01:34 AM	#7
Badger: Black Hills Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Black Hills, SD Posts: 200	I made a wrench out of a 2 x 4, leather belt and a few roofing nails. I made the belt loop overly large to fit the rotor so I could rotate the 2 x 4 with a pipe wrench to tighten the loop against the rotation of the nut. The rotor itself is just held on by magnetism. Good luck! __________________ 2009 National, Custer, SD 2010 NW Regional, Kalispell, MT 2011 National, Maggie Valley, NC 2011 Rally in the Redwoods, CA 2013 National, Estes Park, CO 2013 SE Regional, Blairsville, GA 2014 NW Regional, Orifino, ID 2014 NC/SC Regional in the Ozarks, AR 2016 NC Regional, Hillsboro, WI 2016 E. Canada/NE Regional, Quebec 2017 National, Lake George, NY 2018 SC/NC, Custer, SD 2018 Antlers, OK
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05-06-2018, 01:59 PM	#9
hammer Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329	Yes, so my question again, is this rotor bolt a left hand or right hand bolt??? DOES THE ROTOR BOLT TIGHTEN LEFT OR RIGHT???? I have seen very few bolts that tighten left but I don't want to be surprised on this one. __________________ Hammer aka CrocHammer KawaNow#00988, VROC#26389, VR#2202 Abbotsford, BC, Canada 2006 Black Nomad
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05-06-2018, 03:08 PM	#10
duo1983 Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 52	Sorry bub I don't know but when you find out let me know please. Both my stators are done for and I'm getting ready to replace them soon. Once you make that video let us know. I'll ask around some of my shops about the inner statorlet and let you know.
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05-06-2018, 03:11 PM	#11
ldhthept Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Tallahassee FL Posts: 1,035	Turn the darn thing to the left, if that doesn’t work turn it to the right...
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05-06-2018, 04:05 PM	#14
hammer Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329	Yes that's it. I really would like to know. Loosen left or right. Someone must know. A lot of folks here, like me, are not experienced mechanics. The manual assumes you are which can lead down a bad hole if you fill in the blanks with mistakes. That's the value of the forum. You can overcome ignorance with information. So there should be no stupid questions. The answers inspire confidence too. Information: I got the Rick's Motorsport Electrics 21-219 OEM Inner Stator. I am in Canada so I sourced it through FortNine. __________________ Hammer aka CrocHammer KawaNow#00988, VROC#26389, VR#2202 Abbotsford, BC, Canada 2006 Black Nomad
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05-07-2018, 03:37 PM	#15
VARider07 Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 156	[QUOTE=hammer;702380]Yes that's it. I really would like to know. Loosen left or right. Someone must know. Okay...I went to my manual. IF a bolt is Left Hand threaded, there is a LH by that bolt in the diagram. Example: in the radiator section, there is/are bolts that are LH Threaded. That/they have a LH by the bolt. So...since there is NO LH anywhere in the rotor/stator diagrams, it is Right hand threaded... Lefty loosen/ Righty tighty. There ya go...it is NOT left hand threaded. Go for it. (Turn left to loosen.) Final Answer. __________________ VARider07 07 Nomad 1600 Ultimate Seat Harley Bagger Muffs Christian Motorcycle Rider
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