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Old 03-02-2011, 03:15 PM   #16
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You can have both, just don't mess up the Anode (+) --|>-- (-) Cathode ends
Most LED's that are sold for car/bike applications are not simple singular LED but LED lights designed for use with a 12V system.

If a single LED (they only use up to 5V) and yes you would need to ensure they are inserted into a board and wired correctly. But we are not talking of a single LED like would be on a board, we are talking about an LED cluster that is being produced for installation as running/brake or turn signal lighting and if can be connected in conjunction with incandescent light bulbs to work on a vehicle and that answer is YES absolutely, just for clarification.

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Old 03-02-2011, 03:23 PM   #17
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You cannot have incandsent bulbs mixed on the same circut as LED's

WHAT?? Who told you that?? Or where did you get that info from?

You most certainly CAN. I have it on my bike. I have it in my car, I have it on my trailer too.

Sorry, but someone has fed you a line of BS for sure.
My last bike ( Honda VTX 1300R ), if you changed to LED's on the turn signals, but kept the stock bulbs up front, the rear lights that were changed would blink really fast

This is common on allot of bikes, maybe not this one.

That's why custom dynamics sells " Trick flashers " to slow the rate of the blink down

Cars are different, same with trailers, cause the trailer runs through the cars wiring, which in turn will do the same as their
load equalizers do as seen here & trick flashers:

http://www.customdynamics.com/trick_flasher.htm

http://www.customdynamics.com/loadequalizer.htm


As far as running tail light LED boards, etc, there's no problem there, because they are no " Flashing " at the same rate as turn signals. They will either be a bit brighter because they are getting more voltage then required, and the LED board requires less
 
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Old 03-02-2011, 04:36 PM   #18
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You cannot have incandsent bulbs mixed on the same circut as LED's

WHAT?? Who told you that?? Or where did you get that info from?

You most certainly CAN. I have it on my bike. I have it in my car, I have it on my trailer too.

Sorry, but someone has fed you a line of BS for sure.
My last bike ( Honda VTX 1300R ), if you changed to LED's on the turn signals, but kept the stock bulbs up front, the rear lights that were changed would blink really fast

This is common on allot of bikes, maybe not this one.

That's why custom dynamics sells " Trick flashers " to slow the rate of the blink down

Cars are different, same with trailers, cause the trailer runs through the cars wiring, which in turn will do the same as their
load equalizers do as seen here & trick flashers:

http://www.customdynamics.com/trick_flasher.htm

http://www.customdynamics.com/loadequalizer.htm


As far as running tail light LED boards, etc, there's no problem there, because they are no " Flashing " at the same rate as turn signals. They will either be a bit brighter because they are getting more voltage then required, and the LED board requires less
You are mixing apples and oranges. The question WAS can you ADD LED lights SPICED into EXISTING incandescent lighting with no problem and the ANSWER is YES!!!
If you change the REAR lights from incandescent to LED then you have changed the BASE circuit and caused a load issue causing the lights to FLASH fast on the turn signals. This is due to the type of flasher/relay used in the system that ALSO had distance measuring in it. In a CAR/Truck the self cancel is when you make a turn in the steering wheel it clicks back when at centre and cancels the signal to the flasher relay.
The LOAD (resistance) equalizer is to return the stock arrangement when you removed the current draw that the system was designed for so you don't get a fast flash rate. An electronic or some call them HEAVY duty flasher in place of the standard would also return the system to a normal flash rate.
Most LED bulbs (that fit into stock housings) that look like the bulb but made up of LED's on a circuit board) have the circuit built in to correct this. Signal Dynamics (for example) do not and you would require a load equalizer to solve the problem.
But when adding extra LED lighting (like a strip light for brake) to the existing circuit you are ADDING to the load that is there albeit by a small amount. In the case of adding extra turn signal lights you're not taking anything away from the circuit now just adding extra so it will flash the same as it always did.
Two very different situations.
 
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Old 03-02-2011, 05:24 PM   #19
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Perfect !!! Now I completely agree :)

Good deal, thanks for explaining it better to me
 
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Sooooo,let me see if I got this straight.
If I take my headlight out and put a candle in there I can run a kerosine lantern on the back with no problem, correct? ;)
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Sooooo,let me see if I got this straight.
If I take my headlight out and put a candle in there I can run a kerosine lantern on the back with no problem, correct? ;)
As long as you are holding a stick of dynamite in your hand, then YES
 
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OK. Speaking of Apples and Oranges. What if I want to put Red and Amber lights on the same circuit? What then?
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OK. Speaking of Apples and Oranges. What if I want to put Red and Amber lights on the same circuit? What then?
Others would be GREEN with ENVY!!!
 
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:10 PM   #24
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You guys are soooooo bad, lol :)
 
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Old 03-03-2011, 03:10 PM   #25
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I just love the clash of the Titan's....so do you use goof off or goo gone to remove those stickers
 
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I just love the clash of the Titan's....so do you use goof off or goo gone to remove those stickers
Normally I use GOO GONE to remove any stickers before I GOOF OFF!!!
 
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Old 03-03-2011, 07:57 PM   #27
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Well, I willn't mention any names around here, ( cough Mr. jmilucky ) , ( cough Mr. jmilucky ) ,

But I know somone who used Goof Off, and not only removed what he was trying to remove off his trunk, but he removed the paint as well ::)

Remember, get on the bike, turn the key, ride the bike :)
 
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Sooooo,let me see if I got this straight.
If I take my headlight out and put a candle in there I can run a kerosine lantern on the back with no problem, correct? ;)
Tim; Id run the kerosene lantern in the headlight, if you use a candle up front the wind will blow it out.
Then you would be in the dark as always.
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