Clutch Spring Conversion Kits -- Converts Diaphragm Spring to Six Coil Springs

**PNBR549@Bell** · 07-19-2013, 08:19 AM

Just curious, Barnett makes Clutch Spring Conversion Kits -- Converts Diaphragm Spring to Six Coil Springs for several bikes. Given so many are reporting stock diaphragm problems, why no conversion kit for the 1600's?

I see that the Nad 1700's have springs. Is that because springs provide better feel and consistency throughout the tension curve, even when hot?

Thanks for sharing your knowledge !

dshelly · 07-19-2013, 08:50 AM

I think the coil springs you are seeing are the springs for the inner clutch. There's now way to replace the outer spring with coils.

**PNBR549@Bell** · 07-19-2013, 10:57 AM

Hey Thanks !

I get it now.

Any opinion on which is better, Barnett spring vs. Meanie spring with Judges washers?

**MAS Tequila** · 07-19-2013, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dshelly

I think the coil springs you are seeing are the springs for the inner clutch. There's now way to replace the outer spring with coils.

Wanna bet?

MT

**markclark57** · 07-19-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PNBR549@Bell

Any opinion on which is better, Barnett spring vs. Meanie spring with Judges washers?

My understanding is a 1600 does't need the Judge's washers. The difference between the Barnett and Mean Streak spring is that the "Meanie" is a Ma Kaw part, and the Barnett is after market with similar spec.

dshelly · 07-19-2013, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MAS Tequila

Wanna bet?

MT

OK, Explain how you would do that witout any major modifications?????

recumbentbob · 07-19-2013, 03:40 PM

Why does Barnett offer 3 thicknesses of drive plates??

http://www.barnettclutches.com/678/k...n%20nomad.html

Bob

blowndodge · 07-19-2013, 05:51 PM

Dave they do make a conversion from diaphragm to coil and it's pretty simple to do.

Chili · 07-19-2013, 06:17 PM

I was going to go with the full Gorilla clutch the next time I needed a spring but Sherm's closed down before I could get one.

Silent Sam · 10-17-2013, 11:57 PM

Well I'm Confused ! If my 2002 NOMAD...has a slipping clutch, Do I order the 6 coil springs..or a Diaphram from Kawasaki (or Barnett) ?

On AMAZON.COM..they show the 6 small coil springs....and I'm sure they wont replace my OEM Clutch Diaphram (that is shown, in Gajits site, as the "fix" for the slip problem on the 1500fi NOMAD)

cactusjack · 10-18-2013, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Sam

Well I'm Confused ! If my 2002 NOMAD...has a slipping clutch, Do I order the 6 coil springs..or a Diaphram from Kawasaki (or Barnett) ?

On AMAZON.COM..they show the 6 small coil springs....and I'm sure they wont replace my OEM Clutch Diaphram (that is shown, in Gajits site, as the "fix" for the slip problem on the 1500fi NOMAD)

The six springs you see on Amazon aren't for your clutch. You need the diaphragm spring.

hammer · 10-18-2013, 02:23 AM

If I remember right, CJ found the Barnet MT25 calibrated thicker than the Meanie and I found the same thing. I think this is what he posted,
OEM: .06405"
Meanie: .06705"
Barnett: .0725"

**MAS Tequila** · 10-18-2013, 06:49 AM

http://www.turbotecusa.net/vulcan.html

Take a look, this will be my bext spring set-up.

MT

**ringadingh** · 10-18-2013, 06:57 AM

That looks like a tough clutch, probably a little overkill for most applications.

**Top Cat** · 10-18-2013, 01:21 PM

I replaced the one in my 07 with stock.
Don't see the big deal. Had 98,000 miles on it when I sold it and could still do wheelies.
OK, no wheelies but I still think the stock parts are fine.

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PNBR549@Bell Join Date: May 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 114	Clutch Spring Conversion Kits -- Converts Diaphragm Spring to Six Coil Springs Just curious, Barnett makes Clutch Spring Conversion Kits -- Converts Diaphragm Spring to Six Coil Springs for several bikes. Given so many are reporting stock diaphragm problems, why no conversion kit for the 1600's? I see that the Nad 1700's have springs. Is that because springs provide better feel and consistency throughout the tension curve, even when hot? Thanks for sharing your knowledge ! Login or Register to Remove Ads
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07-19-2013, 08:50 AM	#2
dshelly Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgrade, MT Posts: 2,824	I think the coil springs you are seeing are the springs for the inner clutch. There's now way to replace the outer spring with coils. __________________ Dave "(dshelly)" Shellenberger 2014 Harley Ultra Classic 2007 1600 Nomad (Black) Shellenberger Machine Belgrade, MT Various Bagger Member (Harley Chapter) VBA # 2395
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07-19-2013, 10:57 AM	#3
PNBR549@Bell Join Date: May 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 114	Hey Thanks ! I get it now. Any opinion on which is better, Barnett spring vs. Meanie spring with Judges washers? __________________ Because 2 wheels & a motor are a life long addiction ! 2006 Nomad 1600 2003 Suzuki Volusia 1998 Honda Valkyrie (Sold) 1997 Vulcan 1500 Classic (Sold)
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07-19-2013, 03:40 PM	#7
recumbentbob Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Newburgh IN Posts: 3,404	Why does Barnett offer 3 thicknesses of drive plates?? http://www.barnettclutches.com/678/k...n%20nomad.html Bob __________________ VBA #01084 "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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07-19-2013, 05:51 PM	#8
blowndodge Sr. Contributor Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Washington City, Utah Posts: 16,474	Dave they do make a conversion from diaphragm to coil and it's pretty simple to do. __________________ I love my Victory Cross Country Tour 106. Smells like Victory! Ultra's are Limited There are two types of Harley riders. Those that trailer them and those that push them. The most Interesting Man in the World "Find the things in life you don't do well and don't do those things" Member # 0005
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07-19-2013, 06:17 PM	#9
Chili Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Posts: 409	I was going to go with the full Gorilla clutch the next time I needed a spring but Sherm's closed down before I could get one. __________________ Doug Engstrom 2012 Victory Cross Country Tour 2001 Vulcan Nomad 1500FI, (Sold at 83,000 km)
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10-17-2013, 11:57 PM	#10
Silent Sam Sr. Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: On The Shakey Side Posts: 2,501	Well I'm Confused ! If my 2002 NOMAD...has a slipping clutch, Do I order the 6 coil springs..or a Diaphram from Kawasaki (or Barnett) ? On AMAZON.COM..they show the 6 small coil springs....and I'm sure they wont replace my OEM Clutch Diaphram (that is shown, in Gajits site, as the "fix" for the slip problem on the 1500fi NOMAD)
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10-18-2013, 02:23 AM	#12
hammer Sr. Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329	If I remember right, CJ found the Barnet MT25 calibrated thicker than the Meanie and I found the same thing. I think this is what he posted, OEM: .06405" Meanie: .06705" Barnett: .0725" __________________ Hammer aka CrocHammer KawaNow#00988, VROC#26389, VR#2202 Abbotsford, BC, Canada 2006 Black Nomad
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10-18-2013, 06:49 AM	#13
MAS Tequila Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Psychiatric Ward FL Posts: 3,429	http://www.turbotecusa.net/vulcan.html Take a look, this will be my bext spring set-up. MT __________________ MT 2016 FLHP Psychiatric Ward FL VBA 936
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10-18-2013, 06:57 AM	#14
ringadingh Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newmarket Ontario Canada Posts: 35,387	That looks like a tough clutch, probably a little overkill for most applications. __________________ 2002 Nomad aka Bountyhunter VBA #27 VROC #18951
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10-18-2013, 01:21 PM	#15
Top Cat Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Peoples Republic of New York State Posts: 15,154	I replaced the one in my 07 with stock. Don't see the big deal. Had 98,000 miles on it when I sold it and could still do wheelies. OK, no wheelies but I still think the stock parts are fine. __________________ Tim "TC" Conley VBA #9 2011 Victory Kingpin mine 2013 Victory Boardwalk -hers [LEFT][COLOR=#000000] [SIZE=4]
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