HELP! exhaust snapped

Joe1911 · 05-08-2015, 08:31 AM

Alright guys so this happened yesterday......
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... Ya I know. I bought these pipes off a wrecked bike for 100 bucks. They had no name brand on them. They lasted me half a season. it's the second time the pipe has completely snapped. After the first time I welded it back together then wrapped both pipes with header wrap to hide the weld job.

Now... like I should have done in the beginning. I'm going to purchase a new pair of true dual pipes either from Cobra or Vance and Hines... I know I'm going to be spending at least $500.00 but before I do I would like to get some input on both brands. Does either brand have any quality issues?

Thanks again for your input.

dshelly · 05-08-2015, 08:39 AM

First mistake was wrapping the pipe . That stuff just attracts moisture, and by the looks of the pipe it pretty rusty. It also keeps the heat contained in the metal and with all the hot cold cycles....... You notice where it broke again..... right where you welded it. The heat from welding makes the tube brittle. If you would have let it cool after welding and reheated it with a torch to normalize the metal it might have held. Sorry about your luck..

recumbentbob · 05-08-2015, 10:12 AM

Do search on each brand lots of comments.

**jestephens** · 05-08-2015, 10:31 AM

Ouch! bummer. - There ought to be more options for a classic than we've had for the Nomads, but either of the brands you mention have their fans. I think you'll be happy with either one.
I think V&H has been more customizable in terms of changing baffles and such.

roadhawg · 05-08-2015, 11:10 AM

If I had to replace mine I would go with Cobra
Like many others on here my VH pipes cracked.
Had them welded and all is good. Knock on wood!

**HwyRider** · 05-08-2015, 12:27 PM

His bike is a classic so the pipes will be different.

macmac · 05-08-2015, 01:03 PM

Doesn't look like there was any support either. I see a tab with a bolt hole that connected both pipes out in SPACE. I have no idea what's best for a Classic. If i wanted hard bags like in your other thread i would be all over a road killed Nomad and get all the brackets bags and rear crash bars to support the bagger style exhaust. But what ever you get needs full support or this is what happens anyway rust or no rust.

knobber · 05-08-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe1911

Alright guys so this happened yesterday......
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... Ya I know. I bought these pipes off a wrecked bike for 100 bucks. They had no name brand on them. They lasted me half a season. it's the second time the pipe has completely snapped. After the first time I welded it back together then wrapped both pipes with header wrap to hide the weld job.

Now... like I should have done in the beginning. I'm going to purchase a new pair of true dual pipes either from Cobra or Vance and Hines... I know I'm going to be spending at least $500.00 but before I do I would like to get some input on both brands. Does either brand have any quality issues?

Thanks again for your input.

I have a complete dual system off my 2008 Nomad in excellent condition if your interested.

InkyDoggy · 05-08-2015, 03:59 PM

Time to call an order into Vance & Hines or Cobra for a new set of pipes or check online for a good used set. I do have the set I took off my 1600 but they are pretty heavy and would cost plenty to ship them.

Joe1911 · 05-08-2015, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by InkyDoggy

Time to call an order into Vance & Hines or Cobra for a new set of pipes or check online for a good used set. I do have the set I took off my 1600 but they are pretty heavy and would cost plenty to ship them.

stock pipes?

**HwyRider** · 05-09-2015, 10:32 AM

Not sure if these are the stock pipes for your bike.

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/mpo/5007858947.html

Joe1911 · 05-09-2015, 10:40 AM

Thanks for everyone's help. I decided to go with cobra true dual with billet tip. I also bought the exhaust brackets from a nomad so they will fit securely. I paid $475.00 I also purchased the Nomad rear fender trim and top saddlebag brackets.

dshelly · 05-09-2015, 10:49 AM

If you use the oem clamps you will need 10mm longer studs (m8x1.25) You can find them at your local hardware store.

**JD Hog** · 05-09-2015, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe1911

Thanks for everyone's help. I decided to go with cobra true dual with billet tip. I also bought the exhaust brackets from a nomad so they will fit securely. I paid $475.00 I also purchased the Nomad rear fender trim and top saddlebag brackets.

Nice choice, I have the same and like them a lot

Joe1911 · 05-09-2015, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dshelly

If you use the oem clamps you will need 10mm longer studs (m8x1.25) You can find them at your local hardware store.

Thanks

05-08-2015, 08:31 AM	#1
Joe1911 Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 107	HELP! exhaust snapped Alright guys so this happened yesterday...... 20150507_162644.jpg 20150507_183921.jpg 20150507_165907.jpg ... Ya I know. I bought these pipes off a wrecked bike for 100 bucks. They had no name brand on them. They lasted me half a season. it's the second time the pipe has completely snapped. After the first time I welded it back together then wrapped both pipes with header wrap to hide the weld job. Now... like I should have done in the beginning. I'm going to purchase a new pair of true dual pipes either from Cobra or Vance and Hines... I know I'm going to be spending at least $500.00 but before I do I would like to get some input on both brands. Does either brand have any quality issues? Thanks again for your input. __________________ VBA #03503 2005 Vulcan Classic 1600 Nomad rear end conversion SG Front Wheel/Fender SG Fairing 12" Santee Apes Cobra True Duels Dobeck TFI Custom Paint Custom Leather Seat Login or Register to Remove Ads
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05-08-2015, 08:39 AM	#2
dshelly Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgrade, MT Posts: 2,824	First mistake was wrapping the pipe . That stuff just attracts moisture, and by the looks of the pipe it pretty rusty. It also keeps the heat contained in the metal and with all the hot cold cycles....... You notice where it broke again..... right where you welded it. The heat from welding makes the tube brittle. If you would have let it cool after welding and reheated it with a torch to normalize the metal it might have held. Sorry about your luck.. __________________ Dave "(dshelly)" Shellenberger 2014 Harley Ultra Classic 2007 1600 Nomad (Black) Shellenberger Machine Belgrade, MT Various Bagger Member (Harley Chapter) VBA # 2395
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jestephens Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Fairview Heights, IL (StLouis) Posts: 1,601	Ouch! bummer. - There ought to be more options for a classic than we've had for the Nomads, but either of the brands you mention have their fans. I think you'll be happy with either one. I think V&H has been more customizable in terms of changing baffles and such. __________________ Jay Stephens, Former National Vice President (2013-2015) 2006 Yamaha FJR1300 formerly 2011 Vaquero- Black formerly 2005 Nomad - black/silver
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HwyRider Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Shore, MA Posts: 4,629	His bike is a classic so the pipes will be different. __________________ VBA # 02424 VROC # 35971 2010 Nomad 1700 Metallic Diablo Black/Metallic Titanium
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macmac Sr. Contributor Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tamworth New Hampster 06 1600 Posts: 12,484	Doesn't look like there was any support either. I see a tab with a bolt hole that connected both pipes out in SPACE. I have no idea what's best for a Classic. If i wanted hard bags like in your other thread i would be all over a road killed Nomad and get all the brackets bags and rear crash bars to support the bagger style exhaust. But what ever you get needs full support or this is what happens anyway rust or no rust. __________________ 06 1600 Nomad Just call me Mac molon labe come and get it
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05-08-2015, 03:59 PM	#9
InkyDoggy Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Sharon, Pennsylvania Posts: 112	Time to call an order into Vance & Hines or Cobra for a new set of pipes or check online for a good used set. I do have the set I took off my 1600 but they are pretty heavy and would cost plenty to ship them. __________________ We will be friends until we are old and senile! Then we will be new friends!
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05-09-2015, 10:32 AM	#11
HwyRider Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Shore, MA Posts: 4,629	Not sure if these are the stock pipes for your bike. http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/mpo/5007858947.html __________________ VBA # 02424 VROC # 35971 2010 Nomad 1700 Metallic Diablo Black/Metallic Titanium
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05-09-2015, 10:40 AM	#12
Joe1911 Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 107	Thanks for everyone's help. I decided to go with cobra true dual with billet tip. I also bought the exhaust brackets from a nomad so they will fit securely. I paid $475.00 I also purchased the Nomad rear fender trim and top saddlebag brackets. __________________ VBA #03503 2005 Vulcan Classic 1600 Nomad rear end conversion SG Front Wheel/Fender SG Fairing 12" Santee Apes Cobra True Duels Dobeck TFI Custom Paint Custom Leather Seat
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05-09-2015, 10:49 AM	#13
dshelly Sr. Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Belgrade, MT Posts: 2,824	If you use the oem clamps you will need 10mm longer studs (m8x1.25) You can find them at your local hardware store. __________________ Dave "(dshelly)" Shellenberger 2014 Harley Ultra Classic 2007 1600 Nomad (Black) Shellenberger Machine Belgrade, MT Various Bagger Member (Harley Chapter) VBA # 2395
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