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10-07-2015, 02:41 PM | #1 |
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Thunder tornado intake
Question...I am thinking of purchasing a Thunder Tornado intake for my Vaquero. I have learned from their tech the unit does not have a hole in the tube for the air temp sensor. I would like some opinions on this subject and if any one member has this intake what he or she has done dealing with this issue. Any inputs will be greatly appreciated.
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10-07-2015, 04:35 PM | #2 |
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Extend the wires for the sensor and relocate it to the hole in the fairing that the harness goes in to.
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10-07-2015, 05:51 PM | #3 |
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Or buy Chucksters kit for the 1700. It has a hole for the air temp sensor.
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10-07-2015, 05:57 PM | #4 |
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The current Roaring Toyz breather I may be taking off my engine has the temp sensor in the back plate, it came that way. The Thunder Tornado comes as a large circular tube with a 90 degree bend in it that curves into the throttle body. It has a tapered filter pointing forward so I am thinking of punching a hole in the back of the snorkel tube just behind where the filter mounts on it and securing it in there, even if it means extending the wires for the sender unit. IT CAN BE DONE WITH RELATIVE EASE. I always appreciate everyone's views and inputs. Doesn't the Chuckster come as a round unit only like the one I am currently using?
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10-07-2015, 05:58 PM | #5 |
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Gypsy the one thing I am concerned with moving the wire up front to the fairing is that it is not sending the proper info right into the ECU directly....please reiterate on this.
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10-07-2015, 06:06 PM | #6 |
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This is a mod I learned of from RacnRay. The theory is that you get a more accurate temp reading since the sensor is away from the heat of the motor.
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10-07-2015, 11:30 PM | #8 |
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Ken good question. Not that there is really anything bad about the Roaring Toyz unit, it just behaves like it is getting a little too much air initially at lower revs before picking up even with the tuner working real well, causing a little stumble sometimes as if the air isn't getting into the throttle bnody ports evenly at first. The tornados are a proven unit, a buddy of mine has a pair on his Zook M109 and they work very well. As for the temp sensor not having to be in the intake, that is interesting. I think I will contact Ray and ask for his views on that. Thanks for your inputs guys!
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First of all, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE for an intake to supply "too much air initially" unless the air flow has compromised intake velocity. Velocity (air flow speed) at low engine speeds/low throttle openings is more important than air flow( air flow quantity). Lookin at the pics of the r/toyz unit is has a very well designed backing plate that will not compromise intake velocity. Since air flow is sideways thru the filter you will have even distribution of the air and this kit is no different in that regard to other BAK's that utilize that type of air filter. I see u have the Thunder t/b gasket, do a check for vacuum leaks where the manifold attaches to the heads, there is possibilities for vacuum leaks there. Also, the FI2000 is an archaic tuner and you will NEVER achieve the performance, smoothness and mpg possible with a PCV. RACNRAY
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10-08-2015, 11:40 AM | #11 |
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Ray thanks for the advice.....well heeded. I will get the TB off and check all the bolts at the heads and keep the Roaring Toyz unit intact.
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Any 1700 with no vacuum leaks and properly tuned will not have hesitations or dead spots, but "properly tuned" may not be had with the cobra FI2000. You may get close but... RACNRAY
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